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From: Bob Liu <bob.liu@oracle.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Bob Liu <lliubbo@gmail.com>,
	keir@xen.org, ian.campbell@citrix.com,
	George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] xen: use idle vcpus to scrub pages
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:28:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53D20734.8020902@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53D21AA40200007800025CA7@mail.emea.novell.com>


On 07/25/2014 02:51 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 25.07.14 at 02:42, <bob.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 07/24/2014 02:24 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 24.07.14 at 04:08, <bob.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/23/2014 03:28 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 15.07.14 at 11:16, <bob.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>> After so many days I haven't make a workable solution if don't remove
>>>>>> pages temporarily. The hardest part is iterating the heap free list
>>>>>> without holding heap_lock because if holding the lock it might be heavy
>>>>>> lock contention.
>>>>>> So do you think it's acceptable if fixed all other concerns about this
>>>>>> patch?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I don't think so. Instead I'm of the opinion that you may have
>>>>> worked in the wrong direction: Rather than not taking the heap lock
>>>>> at all, it may also be sufficient to shrink the lock holding time (i.e.
>>>>> avoid long loops with the lock held).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But I still think have to drop pages from heap list temporarily else
>>>> heap lock must be taken for a long time to get rid of E.g. below race
>>>> condition.
>>>>
>>>> A: alloc path            B: idle loop
>>>>
>>>>                         spin_lock(&heap_lock)
>>>>                       page_list_for_each( pg, &heap(node, zone, order) )
>>>>                         if _PGC_need_scrub is set, break;
>>>>                         spin_unlock(&heap_lock)
>>>>
>>>>                         if ( test_bit(_PGC_need_scrub, pg)
>>>>
>>>> ^^^^
>>>> spin_lock(&heap_lock)
>>>> delist page
>>>> spin_unlock(&heap_lock)
>>>>
>>>> write data to this page
>>>>
>>>>                          scrub_one_page(pg)
>>>>                          ^^^ will clean useful data
>>>
>>> No (and I'm sure I said so before): The only problem is with the
>>> linked list itself; the page contents are not a problem - the
>>> allocation path can simply wait for the already suggested
>>> _PGC_scrubbing flag to clear before returning. And as already
>>
>> The page contents are a problem if the race condition I mentioned in
>> previous email happen.
>>
>> Because there is a time window between checking the PGC_need_scrub flag
>> and doing the real scrub in idle thread, the idle thread will still
>> scrub a page after that page have been allocated by allocation path and
>> been used(and have been written some useful data).
> 
> Did you really read all of my previous reply?
> 

Sure, may be I misunderstood your reply.
If the allocation path can wait for the flag there is no problem, but I
remember you suggested to do the scrubbing also in allocation path in
which case I think this race condition will happen.

-- 
Regards,
-Bob

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-25  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-30 13:39 [PATCH v2 1/3] xen: delay page scrubbing to allocation path Bob Liu
2014-06-30 13:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] xen: introduce function merge_free_trunks Bob Liu
2014-06-30 15:58   ` Jan Beulich
2014-07-01  8:14     ` Bob Liu
2014-07-01  8:27       ` Jan Beulich
2014-06-30 13:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] xen: use idle vcpus to scrub pages Bob Liu
2014-07-01  9:12   ` Jan Beulich
2014-07-01 12:25     ` Bob Liu
2014-07-01 12:59       ` Jan Beulich
2014-07-02  6:27         ` Bob Liu
2014-07-07 12:20           ` Bob Liu
2014-07-15  9:16         ` Bob Liu
2014-07-23  0:38           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-23  1:30             ` Bob Liu
2014-07-23  7:28           ` Jan Beulich
2014-07-24  2:08             ` Bob Liu
2014-07-24  6:24               ` Jan Beulich
2014-07-25  0:42                 ` Bob Liu
2014-07-25  6:51                   ` Jan Beulich
2014-07-25  7:28                     ` Bob Liu [this message]
2014-07-25  7:36                       ` Jan Beulich
2014-07-25  8:18                         ` Bob Liu
2014-07-25  8:28                           ` Jan Beulich
2014-06-30 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] xen: delay page scrubbing to allocation path Jan Beulich
2014-07-01  8:12   ` Bob Liu

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