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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: Background page clearing
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:32:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53D286A5.7050100@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A610E03AD50BFC4D95529A36D37FA55E3756EFEC80@GEORGE.Emea.Arm.com>

On 07/25/2014 09:27 AM, Wilco Dijkstra wrote:
>> On 07/25/2014 08:06 AM, Wilco Dijkstra wrote:
>>> Is there a reason Linux does not do background page clearing like other OSes to reduce this
>>> overhead? It would be a good fit for typical mobile workloads (bursts of high activity
>> followed by
>>> periods of low activity).
>>
>> If the page is being allocated, it is about to be used and be brought in
>> to the CPU's cache.  If we zero it close to this use, we only pay to
>> bring it in to the CPU's cache once.  Or so goes the theory...
> 
> I can see the reasoning for 4KB pages and small allocations (eg. stack),
> but would that ever be true for huge pages?

Probably not, but huge pages aren't allocated and freed enough in any
workload that I know of for this to make a difference for them.

>> I tried a zero-on-free implementation a year or so ago.  It helped some
>> workloads and hurt others.  The gains were not large enough or
>> widespread enough to merit pushing it in to the kernel.
> 
> Was that literally zero-on-free or zero in the background? Was the result
> the same for different page sizes? My guess is that the result will be
> different for huge pages.

Literally zero-on-free for 4k pages only.  I did it inside the
per-cpu-pages lists.


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      reply	other threads:[~2014-07-25 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-25 15:06 Background page clearing Wilco Dijkstra
2014-07-25 15:19 ` Dave Hansen
2014-07-25 16:27   ` Wilco Dijkstra
2014-07-25 16:32     ` Dave Hansen [this message]

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