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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Chen Gang <gang.chen.5i5j@gmail.com>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.de>,
	linux@arm.linux.org.uk, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	will.deacon@arm.com, msalter@redhat.com, a-jacquiot@ti.com,
	tony.luck@intel.com, fenghua.yu@intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-c6x-dev@linux-c6x.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitly
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:51:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53EB0AF6.6060208@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53EAF85E.3000208@gmail.com>

On 08/12/2014 10:32 PM, Chen Gang wrote:
> 
> Yeah, we need.
> 
>> The solution you suggest assumes that an arch is either little or big endian.
>> But we cannot ignore the hybriads that can do both.
>>
> 
> For the architectures which can do both, for me, they are: sh, powerpc,
> m32r, and mips (may mark CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN), also are: arm/arm64, and
> c6x (may mark !CPU_BIG_ENDIAN).
> 
> For the architectures which only support little endian: x86, and ia64.
> 
> The left, I assumes they are big endian (no any 'ENDIAN' can be found
> in their Kconfig files). In my memory, except related with Intel, all
> are (or support) big endian.
> 

I'm quite certain that is wrong.  From memory, for example, I believe
CRIS is littleendian, and sure enough:

: tazenda 103 ; less arch/cris/include/uapi/asm/byteorder.h
#ifndef _CRIS_BYTEORDER_H
#define _CRIS_BYTEORDER_H

#include <linux/byteorder/little_endian.h>

#endif

As far as I know, endianism is always a compile-time option on Linux, so
we should be able to relatively easily define the architecture so that
we either have hardwired littleendian, bigendian, or prompt.

	-hpa

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Chen Gang <gang.chen.5i5j@gmail.com>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.de>,
	linux@arm.linux.org.uk, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	will.deacon@arm.com, msalter@redhat.com, a-jacquiot@ti.com,
	tony.luck@intel.com, fenghua.yu@intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-c6x-dev@linux-c6x.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitl
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 06:51:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53EB0AF6.6060208@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53EAF85E.3000208@gmail.com>

On 08/12/2014 10:32 PM, Chen Gang wrote:
> 
> Yeah, we need.
> 
>> The solution you suggest assumes that an arch is either little or big endian.
>> But we cannot ignore the hybriads that can do both.
>>
> 
> For the architectures which can do both, for me, they are: sh, powerpc,
> m32r, and mips (may mark CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN), also are: arm/arm64, and
> c6x (may mark !CPU_BIG_ENDIAN).
> 
> For the architectures which only support little endian: x86, and ia64.
> 
> The left, I assumes they are big endian (no any 'ENDIAN' can be found
> in their Kconfig files). In my memory, except related with Intel, all
> are (or support) big endian.
> 

I'm quite certain that is wrong.  From memory, for example, I believe
CRIS is littleendian, and sure enough:

: tazenda 103 ; less arch/cris/include/uapi/asm/byteorder.h
#ifndef _CRIS_BYTEORDER_H
#define _CRIS_BYTEORDER_H

#include <linux/byteorder/little_endian.h>

#endif

As far as I know, endianism is always a compile-time option on Linux, so
we should be able to relatively easily define the architecture so that
we either have hardwired littleendian, bigendian, or prompt.

	-hpa


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From: hpa@zytor.com (H. Peter Anvin)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitly
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:51:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53EB0AF6.6060208@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53EAF85E.3000208@gmail.com>

On 08/12/2014 10:32 PM, Chen Gang wrote:
> 
> Yeah, we need.
> 
>> The solution you suggest assumes that an arch is either little or big endian.
>> But we cannot ignore the hybriads that can do both.
>>
> 
> For the architectures which can do both, for me, they are: sh, powerpc,
> m32r, and mips (may mark CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN), also are: arm/arm64, and
> c6x (may mark !CPU_BIG_ENDIAN).
> 
> For the architectures which only support little endian: x86, and ia64.
> 
> The left, I assumes they are big endian (no any 'ENDIAN' can be found
> in their Kconfig files). In my memory, except related with Intel, all
> are (or support) big endian.
> 

I'm quite certain that is wrong.  From memory, for example, I believe
CRIS is littleendian, and sure enough:

: tazenda 103 ; less arch/cris/include/uapi/asm/byteorder.h
#ifndef _CRIS_BYTEORDER_H
#define _CRIS_BYTEORDER_H

#include <linux/byteorder/little_endian.h>

#endif

As far as I know, endianism is always a compile-time option on Linux, so
we should be able to relatively easily define the architecture so that
we either have hardwired littleendian, bigendian, or prompt.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-13  6:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-12 22:48 [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitly Chen Gang
2014-08-12 22:48 ` Chen Gang
2014-08-12 22:48 ` Chen Gang
2014-08-13  5:08 ` Sam Ravnborg
2014-08-13  5:08   ` Sam Ravnborg
2014-08-13  5:08   ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitl Sam Ravnborg
2014-08-13  5:32   ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitly Chen Gang
2014-08-13  5:32     ` Chen Gang
2014-08-13  5:32     ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitl Chen Gang
2014-08-13  6:51     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-08-13  6:51       ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitly H. Peter Anvin
2014-08-13  6:51       ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitl H. Peter Anvin
2014-08-13  7:44       ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitly Chen Gang
2014-08-13  7:44         ` Chen Gang
2014-08-13  7:44         ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitl Chen Gang
2014-08-13  8:03 ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitly Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-08-13  8:03   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-08-13  8:03   ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitl Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-08-13  8:16   ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitly Chen Gang
2014-08-13  8:16     ` Chen Gang
2014-08-13  8:16     ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitl Chen Gang
2014-08-22 11:09   ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitly Michal Marek
2014-08-22 11:09     ` Michal Marek
2014-08-22 11:09     ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitl Michal Marek
2014-08-23  2:31     ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitly Chen Gang
2014-08-23  2:31       ` Chen Gang
2014-08-23  2:31       ` [PATCH v2] arch: Kconfig: Let all little endian architectures define CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN explicitl Chen Gang

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