From: "Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Walid Nouri <walid.nouri@gmail.com>,
hinesmr@cn.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, michael@hinespot.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Microcheckpointing: Memory-VCPU / Disk State consistency
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:23:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53ECF082.6090307@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140814105802.GD2503@work-vm>
On 08/14/2014 06:58 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> cc'ing in a couple of the COLOers.
Thanks, David. Glad to see their patches in last month - I need to take
a look at them.
> The 2013 paper says: 'COLO modifies the guest OS’s TCP/IP stack in
> order to make the behavior more deterministic. ' but does say that an
> alternative might be to have a ' comparison function that operates
> transparently over re-assembled TCP streams'
Ouch - I didn't realize that.
It may or may not be a problem - but if it gets us further towards
fault-tolerance, I'm open-minded. =)
The Xen paper did the same thing for databases - they also modified the
guest TCP stack.
>> My hope in the future was that the two approaches could be used in a
>> "Hybrid" manner - actually MC has much more of a performance hit for I/O
>> than COLO does because of its buffering requirements.
>>
>> On the other hand, MC would perform better in a memory-intensive or
>> CPU-intensive situation - so maybe QEMU could "switch" between the two
>> mechanisms at different points in time when the resource bottleneck changes.
> If the primary were to rate-limit the number of resynchronisations
> (and send the secondary a message as soon as it knew a resync was needed) that
> would get some of the way, but then the only difference from microcheckpointing
> at that point is the secondary doing a wasteful copy and sending the packets across;
> it seems it should be easy to disable those if it knew that a resync was going to
> happen.
>
> Dave
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2014-08-11 17:22 ` [Qemu-devel] Microcheckpointing: Memory-VCPU / Disk State consistency Walid Nouri
2014-08-11 20:15 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-08-17 9:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-19 8:58 ` Walid Nouri
2014-09-10 15:43 ` Walid Nouri
2014-09-11 1:50 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-09-12 1:34 ` Hongyang Yang
2014-09-11 7:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-11 17:44 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-09-11 22:08 ` Walid Nouri
2014-09-12 1:24 ` Hongyang Yang
2014-09-12 11:07 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-17 20:53 ` Walid Nouri
2014-09-18 13:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-23 16:36 ` Walid Nouri
2014-09-24 8:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-25 16:06 ` Walid Nouri
2014-08-11 20:15 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-08-13 14:03 ` Walid Nouri
2014-08-13 22:28 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-08-14 10:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-08-14 17:23 ` Michael R. Hines [this message]
2014-08-19 8:33 ` Walid Nouri
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