From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mikko Perttunen Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] of: Add descriptions of thermtrip properties to Tegra PMC bindings Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 12:50:22 +0300 Message-ID: <5409875E.2080607@kapsi.fi> References: <1407933685-12404-1-git-send-email-mperttunen@nvidia.com> <1407933685-12404-2-git-send-email-mperttunen@nvidia.com> <53F50231.5010605@wwwdotorg.org> <20140821065853.GE4486@ulmo> <53F61275.9020508@wwwdotorg.org> <20140821165357.GC1172@ulmo> <53F6326F.2050600@wwwdotorg.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <53F6326F.2050600-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org> Sender: linux-tegra-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org To: Stephen Warren , Thierry Reding Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org, linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, wni-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org List-Id: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org Hi again! I have fixed all other issues mentioned apart from this one. I can see three ways ahead: 1) Keep things as is. There is a slight possibility that in the future we will have a hardware configuration with multiple bus addresses and this will cause annoyance. 2) Keep things otherwise as is, but read the bus address from the thermtrip node. While at it, just have a reference to the the I2C bus rather than the PMIC in the bindings. 3) Create a new poweroff driver class with two operations: poweroff and get_i2c_command. The AS3722 poweroff "driver" is already separated from the MFD and would be relatively straightforward to port to a new driver subsystem. However, other PMICs we have, such as Palmas, don't do this and would require larger refactoring. TBH, this smells of overengineering to me. 4) Other ideas? What is your opinion? Cheers, Mikko On 08/21/2014 08:54 PM, Stephen Warren wrote: > On 08/21/2014 10:53 AM, Thierry Reding wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 09:38:29AM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote: >>> On 08/21/2014 12:58 AM, Thierry Reding wrote: >>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 02:16:49PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote: >>>>> On 08/13/2014 06:41 AM, Mikko Perttunen wrote: >>>>>> Hardware-triggered thermal reset requires configuring the I2C >>>>>> reset procedure. This configuration is read from the device tree, >>>>>> so document the relevant properties in the binding documentation. >>>>> >>>>>> diff --git >>>>>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt >>>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt > >>>>>> +- nvidia,pmu : Phandle to power management unit / PMIC handling >>>>>> poweroff >>>>>> +- nvidia,reg-addr : I2C register address to write poweroff >>>>>> command to >>>>>> +- nvidia,reg-data : Poweroff command to write to PMU >>>>> >>>>> Why are both the PMU/PMIC phandle and the register address/data >>>>> required? I >>>>> thought the purpose of having the phandle was to allow the register >>>>> address >>>>> and data to be queried from the PMU/PMIC driver. >>>>> >>>>> To me, it seems much simpler to get rid of the phandle and just >>>>> hard-code >>>>> the I2C bus number, address, and data into this node, rather than >>>>> having to >>>>> go query it from the PMU/PMIC driver, then find the I2C controller, >>>>> then >>>>> query it for its ID (and hope that all HW modules that talk to I2C >>>>> controllers directly use the same numbering scheme...) >>>> >>>> I originally requested this to be changed. It seems wrong to duplicate >>>> information about the PMIC in both the PMIC device tree node and the >>>> i2c-thermtrip node if we can get the same information from the driver >>>> directly (via the phandle). It certainly requires a little more code, >>>> but at the advantage of not having to figure out the I2C controller >>>> hardware number and I2C slave addresses when writing the i2c-thermtrip >>>> node. >>> >>> I cant see that argument, but surely the PMIC driver can also supply the > > Oops, that was meant to be can not cant. > >>> "reg-addr" and "reg-data" values too, if it's already being queried >>> for the >>> I2C device address and bus number? The binding above appears to >>> duplicate >>> part of the information, while requiring querying of the other part. >> >> I suppose that could be done. It would take a new function to do that, >> though, since I'm not aware of a generic mechanism to query this kind of >> information from a PMIC (there's no generic PMIC API, either, so perhaps >> it would be a good time to create one?). The I2C controller and I2C >> slave are generic I2C properties, whereas the register and data to power >> off the device are very device specific. > > I don't think it's possible to generically query an I2C device for its > address from the struct i2c_device object; the code still needs to call > a function in the PMIC driver to obtain this. > > That's because some I2C devices respond to multiple I2C addresses, and > there's no guarantee that the one I2C address in the DT (and hence the > struct i2c_device) is the address upon which the regulator function exists. > > grep for i2c_new_dummy in drivers/mfd and you'll find quite a few > examples. The Atmel MXT touchpad/screen is another example. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-tegra" in > the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: mikko.perttunen@kapsi.fi (Mikko Perttunen) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 12:50:22 +0300 Subject: [PATCH v2 1/5] of: Add descriptions of thermtrip properties to Tegra PMC bindings In-Reply-To: <53F6326F.2050600@wwwdotorg.org> References: <1407933685-12404-1-git-send-email-mperttunen@nvidia.com> <1407933685-12404-2-git-send-email-mperttunen@nvidia.com> <53F50231.5010605@wwwdotorg.org> <20140821065853.GE4486@ulmo> <53F61275.9020508@wwwdotorg.org> <20140821165357.GC1172@ulmo> <53F6326F.2050600@wwwdotorg.org> Message-ID: <5409875E.2080607@kapsi.fi> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org Hi again! I have fixed all other issues mentioned apart from this one. I can see three ways ahead: 1) Keep things as is. There is a slight possibility that in the future we will have a hardware configuration with multiple bus addresses and this will cause annoyance. 2) Keep things otherwise as is, but read the bus address from the thermtrip node. While at it, just have a reference to the the I2C bus rather than the PMIC in the bindings. 3) Create a new poweroff driver class with two operations: poweroff and get_i2c_command. The AS3722 poweroff "driver" is already separated from the MFD and would be relatively straightforward to port to a new driver subsystem. However, other PMICs we have, such as Palmas, don't do this and would require larger refactoring. TBH, this smells of overengineering to me. 4) Other ideas? What is your opinion? Cheers, Mikko On 08/21/2014 08:54 PM, Stephen Warren wrote: > On 08/21/2014 10:53 AM, Thierry Reding wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 09:38:29AM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote: >>> On 08/21/2014 12:58 AM, Thierry Reding wrote: >>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 02:16:49PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote: >>>>> On 08/13/2014 06:41 AM, Mikko Perttunen wrote: >>>>>> Hardware-triggered thermal reset requires configuring the I2C >>>>>> reset procedure. This configuration is read from the device tree, >>>>>> so document the relevant properties in the binding documentation. >>>>> >>>>>> diff --git >>>>>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt >>>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt > >>>>>> +- nvidia,pmu : Phandle to power management unit / PMIC handling >>>>>> poweroff >>>>>> +- nvidia,reg-addr : I2C register address to write poweroff >>>>>> command to >>>>>> +- nvidia,reg-data : Poweroff command to write to PMU >>>>> >>>>> Why are both the PMU/PMIC phandle and the register address/data >>>>> required? I >>>>> thought the purpose of having the phandle was to allow the register >>>>> address >>>>> and data to be queried from the PMU/PMIC driver. >>>>> >>>>> To me, it seems much simpler to get rid of the phandle and just >>>>> hard-code >>>>> the I2C bus number, address, and data into this node, rather than >>>>> having to >>>>> go query it from the PMU/PMIC driver, then find the I2C controller, >>>>> then >>>>> query it for its ID (and hope that all HW modules that talk to I2C >>>>> controllers directly use the same numbering scheme...) >>>> >>>> I originally requested this to be changed. It seems wrong to duplicate >>>> information about the PMIC in both the PMIC device tree node and the >>>> i2c-thermtrip node if we can get the same information from the driver >>>> directly (via the phandle). It certainly requires a little more code, >>>> but at the advantage of not having to figure out the I2C controller >>>> hardware number and I2C slave addresses when writing the i2c-thermtrip >>>> node. >>> >>> I cant see that argument, but surely the PMIC driver can also supply the > > Oops, that was meant to be can not cant. > >>> "reg-addr" and "reg-data" values too, if it's already being queried >>> for the >>> I2C device address and bus number? The binding above appears to >>> duplicate >>> part of the information, while requiring querying of the other part. >> >> I suppose that could be done. It would take a new function to do that, >> though, since I'm not aware of a generic mechanism to query this kind of >> information from a PMIC (there's no generic PMIC API, either, so perhaps >> it would be a good time to create one?). The I2C controller and I2C >> slave are generic I2C properties, whereas the register and data to power >> off the device are very device specific. > > I don't think it's possible to generically query an I2C device for its > address from the struct i2c_device object; the code still needs to call > a function in the PMIC driver to obtain this. > > That's because some I2C devices respond to multiple I2C addresses, and > there's no guarantee that the one I2C address in the DT (and hence the > struct i2c_device) is the address upon which the regulator function exists. > > grep for i2c_new_dummy in drivers/mfd and you'll find quite a few > examples. The Atmel MXT touchpad/screen is another example. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-tegra" in > the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756630AbaIEJut (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Sep 2014 05:50:49 -0400 Received: from mail.kapsi.fi ([217.30.184.167]:54619 "EHLO mail.kapsi.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756061AbaIEJur (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Sep 2014 05:50:47 -0400 Message-ID: <5409875E.2080607@kapsi.fi> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 12:50:22 +0300 From: Mikko Perttunen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Warren , Thierry Reding CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, wni@nvidia.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] of: Add descriptions of thermtrip properties to Tegra PMC bindings References: <1407933685-12404-1-git-send-email-mperttunen@nvidia.com> <1407933685-12404-2-git-send-email-mperttunen@nvidia.com> <53F50231.5010605@wwwdotorg.org> <20140821065853.GE4486@ulmo> <53F61275.9020508@wwwdotorg.org> <20140821165357.GC1172@ulmo> <53F6326F.2050600@wwwdotorg.org> In-Reply-To: <53F6326F.2050600@wwwdotorg.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:708:30:12d0:beee:7bff:fe5b:f272 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mikko.perttunen@kapsi.fi X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.kapsi.fi); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi again! I have fixed all other issues mentioned apart from this one. I can see three ways ahead: 1) Keep things as is. There is a slight possibility that in the future we will have a hardware configuration with multiple bus addresses and this will cause annoyance. 2) Keep things otherwise as is, but read the bus address from the thermtrip node. While at it, just have a reference to the the I2C bus rather than the PMIC in the bindings. 3) Create a new poweroff driver class with two operations: poweroff and get_i2c_command. The AS3722 poweroff "driver" is already separated from the MFD and would be relatively straightforward to port to a new driver subsystem. However, other PMICs we have, such as Palmas, don't do this and would require larger refactoring. TBH, this smells of overengineering to me. 4) Other ideas? What is your opinion? Cheers, Mikko On 08/21/2014 08:54 PM, Stephen Warren wrote: > On 08/21/2014 10:53 AM, Thierry Reding wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 09:38:29AM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote: >>> On 08/21/2014 12:58 AM, Thierry Reding wrote: >>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 02:16:49PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote: >>>>> On 08/13/2014 06:41 AM, Mikko Perttunen wrote: >>>>>> Hardware-triggered thermal reset requires configuring the I2C >>>>>> reset procedure. This configuration is read from the device tree, >>>>>> so document the relevant properties in the binding documentation. >>>>> >>>>>> diff --git >>>>>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt >>>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt > >>>>>> +- nvidia,pmu : Phandle to power management unit / PMIC handling >>>>>> poweroff >>>>>> +- nvidia,reg-addr : I2C register address to write poweroff >>>>>> command to >>>>>> +- nvidia,reg-data : Poweroff command to write to PMU >>>>> >>>>> Why are both the PMU/PMIC phandle and the register address/data >>>>> required? I >>>>> thought the purpose of having the phandle was to allow the register >>>>> address >>>>> and data to be queried from the PMU/PMIC driver. >>>>> >>>>> To me, it seems much simpler to get rid of the phandle and just >>>>> hard-code >>>>> the I2C bus number, address, and data into this node, rather than >>>>> having to >>>>> go query it from the PMU/PMIC driver, then find the I2C controller, >>>>> then >>>>> query it for its ID (and hope that all HW modules that talk to I2C >>>>> controllers directly use the same numbering scheme...) >>>> >>>> I originally requested this to be changed. It seems wrong to duplicate >>>> information about the PMIC in both the PMIC device tree node and the >>>> i2c-thermtrip node if we can get the same information from the driver >>>> directly (via the phandle). It certainly requires a little more code, >>>> but at the advantage of not having to figure out the I2C controller >>>> hardware number and I2C slave addresses when writing the i2c-thermtrip >>>> node. >>> >>> I cant see that argument, but surely the PMIC driver can also supply the > > Oops, that was meant to be can not cant. > >>> "reg-addr" and "reg-data" values too, if it's already being queried >>> for the >>> I2C device address and bus number? The binding above appears to >>> duplicate >>> part of the information, while requiring querying of the other part. >> >> I suppose that could be done. It would take a new function to do that, >> though, since I'm not aware of a generic mechanism to query this kind of >> information from a PMIC (there's no generic PMIC API, either, so perhaps >> it would be a good time to create one?). The I2C controller and I2C >> slave are generic I2C properties, whereas the register and data to power >> off the device are very device specific. > > I don't think it's possible to generically query an I2C device for its > address from the struct i2c_device object; the code still needs to call > a function in the PMIC driver to obtain this. > > That's because some I2C devices respond to multiple I2C addresses, and > there's no guarantee that the one I2C address in the DT (and hence the > struct i2c_device) is the address upon which the regulator function exists. > > grep for i2c_new_dummy in drivers/mfd and you'll find quite a few > examples. The Atmel MXT touchpad/screen is another example. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-tegra" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html