From: Don Slutz <dslutz@verizon.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>, Don Slutz <dslutz@verizon.com>
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Eddie Dong <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] Add limited support of VMware's hyper-call
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:25:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54108970.2020000@terremark.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1410341531.8217.262.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>
On 09/10/14 05:32, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 13:31 -0400, Don Slutz wrote:
>> On 09/09/14 05:36, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 12:57 -0400, Don Slutz wrote:
>>>>>> Also this instruction is allowed to be used from ring 3. To
>>>>>> support this the vmexit for GP needs to be enabled.
>>>>> Isn't that quite costly?
>>>> Yes. But since that is how VMware does it, I need to do the same slow
>>>> thing.
>>> Sounds from other subthreads like there might be other better ways? It's
>>> hard to believe that vmware is really trapping every #GP.
>> I have not found a better way. The simplest statement I have come
>> up with is that this is not a pass thru of the VMware device. Or the
>> statement (in AMD land): Generate an IOIO #VMEXIT not a GP
>> #VMWEXIT for ioport <x> (or all ports).
>>
>> And yes this sounds bad, until you think about how many GP #VMEXIT
>> are done. For both Linux and Windows this is a small number (< 10).
> Hrm, well this is mainly one for the hypervisor guys and I believe there
> is already a subthread exploring option here so I'll leave it at that.
>
>>>>>> The support included is enough to allow VMware tools to install in a
>>>>>> HVM domU and provide guestinfo support. guestinfo support is
>>>>>> provide by what is known as VMware RPC support. This guestinfo
>>>>>> support is provided via libxc. libxl support has not be written.
>>>>> I suppose this isn't a true RPC, since there isn't any actual running
>>>>> code on the remote side? (alternatively if you have added some sort of
>>>>> daemon backend to libxc then we need to talk ;-))
>>>> Nope, it is not a true RPC. However that is the way VMware's
>>>> documentation talks about it. However it is a very slow speed
>>>> way of passing data into or out of a domU. At some point it
>>>> does make sense to consider how libxl might change to take
>>>> advantage of this, but I am sure that this is not happening for 4.5.
>>>>
>>>> This was why I provided the optional unit test code as an example
>>>> of the use of the libxc changes.
>>> So is the libxc code as proposed today actually used for anything?
>> Yes. 2 main areas:
>>
>> 1) Clean shutdown of windows guests with VMware tools installed.
>> (acpi poweroff does not work if logged off).
>> 2) set root's password and hostname at 1st boot of a template
>> (done by VMware guestinfo). Note: this could have been done with
>> xenstore (XenBus?) but was not since we also use the VMware
>> mouse support (not for 4.5, planned for 4.6 needs QEMU support).
> Is that functionality in this series and I've just missed it?
The clean shutdown of windows can be done with the optional
code in v3 (not this patch set):
A tool to send a trigger to a domU via xc_domain_send_trigger
I know this is not the best and having something in shutdown_domain (or
libxl_domain_shutdown) and reboot_domain (or libxl_domain_reboot) whould
be much better. I think this is too late in 4.5 since the code has not
been written yet (the tool stack I use all the time does have it).
And for #2, you also need a script in the guest, VMware tools installed in
the guest and use the optional tool in v3:
A tool to get and set VMware guestinfo
which I do have. I might have mis-understood your question. Hope this
helps.
-Don Slutz
> Ian
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-10 17:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-01 15:33 [PATCH v2 0/3] Xen VMware tools support Don Slutz
2014-09-01 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Add vmware_hw to xl.cfg Don Slutz
2014-09-02 7:28 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-02 18:24 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03 7:45 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 10:59 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03 12:33 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 12:51 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:21 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:47 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:55 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:20 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:56 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 14:07 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-08 18:39 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 22:11 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 23:34 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-08 14:21 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-08 15:16 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-08 15:27 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-08 22:41 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:17 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:27 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-08 13:41 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 14:18 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 19:16 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-09 9:39 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-09 17:02 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-10 9:30 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-10 17:44 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-12 12:25 ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-09-08 22:14 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-01 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] vmport: Add VMware provided include files Don Slutz
2014-09-02 7:34 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-02 18:46 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03 7:51 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 12:38 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-01 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] Add limited support of VMware's hyper-call Don Slutz
2014-09-02 8:16 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 0:55 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03 8:25 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 18:28 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:35 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 16:57 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-09 9:36 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-09 17:31 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-09 19:22 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-10 9:32 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-10 17:25 ` Don Slutz [this message]
2014-09-01 16:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Xen VMware tools support Jan Beulich
2014-09-01 18:14 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:03 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:18 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:42 ` Ian Campbell
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