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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>
Cc: Mathew John <mathewj@microsoft.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	David Hepkin <davidhep@microsoft.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Niels Ferguson <niels@microsoft.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Jake Oshins <jakeo@microsoft.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	John Starks <John.Starks@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: Standardizing an MSR or other hypercall to get an RNG seed?
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:18:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <541C656D.9030400@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140919171545.GK26540@minantech.com>

On 09/19/2014 10:15 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:08:20AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 09/19/2014 09:53 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:40:07AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>>> On 09/19/2014 09:37 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux detects what hypervior it runs on very early
>>>>
>>>> Not anywhere close to early enough.  We're talking for uses like kASLR.
>>>>
>>> Still to early to do:
>>>
>>>    h = cpuid(HYPERVIOR_SIGNATURE)
>>>    if (h == KVMKVMKVM) {
>>>       if (cpuid(kvm_features) & kvm_rnd)
>>>          rdmsr(kvm_rnd)
>>>    else (h == HyperV) {
>>>       if (cpuid(hv_features) & hv_rnd)
>>>         rdmsr(hv_rnd) 
>>>    else (h == XenXenXen) {
>>>       if (cpuid(xen_features) & xen_rnd)
>>>         rdmsr(xen_rnd)
>>>   }
>>>
>>
>> If we need to do chase loops, especially not so...
>>
> What loops exactly? As a non native English speaker I fail to understand
> if your answer is "yes" or "no" ;)
> 

The above isn't actually the full algorithm used.

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-19 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-18  2:50 Standardizing an MSR or other hypercall to get an RNG seed? Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 14:40 ` KY Srinivasan
2014-09-18 14:43   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-18 15:38     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 15:44       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 15:58         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-18 16:36       ` KY Srinivasan
2014-09-18 16:36       ` KY Srinivasan
2014-09-18 17:13         ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-18 17:17           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-18 17:20             ` Jake Oshins
2014-09-18 17:20             ` Jake Oshins
2014-09-18 17:20             ` KY Srinivasan
2014-09-18 17:20             ` KY Srinivasan
2014-09-18 17:42               ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-18 18:35                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 18:39                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-18 18:54                     ` Niels Ferguson
2014-09-18 19:03                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 21:54                         ` David Hepkin
2014-09-19  6:04                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-18 21:54                         ` David Hepkin
2014-09-18 18:58                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-18 19:07                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 21:21                       ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-18 21:35                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 21:46                       ` David Hepkin
2014-09-18 21:57                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-18 22:07                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19  0:49                             ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-19  1:03                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19  1:28                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 16:14                                   ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-19 16:22                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-19 16:40                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 17:21                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 17:36                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 17:39                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 22:05                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-19 22:06                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 22:57                                           ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-19 22:57                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-19 23:12                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 23:29                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 23:35                                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-19 23:41                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-20  0:06                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 23:29                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19  1:28                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19  0:49                             ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-18 22:00                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 22:03                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 16:37                           ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19 16:40                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 16:53                               ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19 17:08                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 17:15                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19 17:18                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 17:49                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19 18:02                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 18:12                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19 18:20                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 20:53                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-22  4:11                                               ` Alok Kataria
2014-09-19 17:18                                     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-09-19 17:21                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 17:59                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19 17:59                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-18 21:46                       ` David Hepkin
2014-09-18 18:56                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-18 17:17           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-18 14:40 ` KY Srinivasan
2014-09-19 18:30 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-19 18:42   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 20:21     ` Nadav Amit
2014-09-19 20:21     ` Nadav Amit
2014-09-19 20:46       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 21:46         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-22 13:31           ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-22 14:17             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-22 14:18               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-22 23:01             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-21 12:39         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-22 13:33     ` Christopher Covington

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