From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/11] block: let commit blockjob run in BDS AioContext
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:18:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54340444.7070608@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141006093041.GB2694@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>
On 06.10.2014 11:30, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 04, 2014 at 11:28:22PM +0200, Max Reitz wrote:
>> On 01.10.2014 19:01, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> The commit block job must run in the BlockDriverState AioContext so that
>>> it works with dataplane.
>>>
>>> Acquire the AioContext in blockdev.c so starting the block job is safe.
>>> One detail here is that the bdrv_drain_all() must be moved inside the
>>> aio_context_acquire() region so requests cannot sneak in between the
>>> drain and acquire.
>> Hm, I see the intent, but in patch 5 you said bdrv_drain_all() should never
>> be called outside of the main loop (at least that's how it appeared to me).
>> Wouldn't it be enough to use bdrv_drain() on the source BDS, like in patch
>> 9?
> There is no contradiction here because qmp_block_commit() is invoked by
> the QEMU monitor from the main loop.
>
> The problem with bdrv_drain_all() is that it acquires AioContexts. If
> called outside the main loop without taking special care, it could
> result in lock ordering problems (e.g. two threads trying to acquire all
> AioContexts at the same time while already holding their respective
> contexts).
>
> qmp_block_commit() is just traditional QEMU global mutex code so it is
> allowed to call bdrv_drain_all().
Hm, okay then.
>>> @@ -140,27 +173,14 @@ wait:
>>> ret = 0;
>>> - if (!block_job_is_cancelled(&s->common) && sector_num == end) {
>>> - /* success */
>>> - ret = bdrv_drop_intermediate(active, top, base, s->backing_file_str);
>>> +out:
>>> + if (buf) {
>>> + qemu_vfree(buf);
>>> }
>> Is this new condition really necessary? However, it won't hurt, so:
> This was a mistake. Since commit
> 94c8ff3a01d9bd1005f066a0ee3fe43c842a43b7 ("w32: Make qemu_vfree() accept
> NULL like the POSIX implementation") it is no longer necessary to check
> for NULL pointers.
>
> You can't teach an old dog new tricks :).
>
> Thanks, will fix in the next revision!
>
>> Reviewed-by: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
>>
>> A general question regarding the assertions here and in patch 8: I tried to
>> break them, but it couldn't find a way. The way I tried was by creating two
>> devices in different threads with just one qcow2 behind each of them, and
>> then trying to attach on of those qcow2 BDS to the other as a backing file.
>> I couldn't find out, how, but I guess this is something we might want to
>> support in the future. Can we actually be sure that all of the BDS in one
>> tree are always running in the same AIO context? Are we already enforcing
>> this?
> bdrv_set_aio_context() is recursive so it also sets all the child nodes.
> That is the only mechanism to ensure AioContext is consistent across
> nodes.
>
> When the BDS graph is manipulated (e.g. attaching new roots, swapping
> nodes, etc) we don't perform checks today.
>
> Markus has asked that I add the appropriate assertions so errors are
> caught early. I haven't done that yet but it's a good next step.
Okay, seems good to me. It's not possible to break them now, and if it
will ever be, the assertions will at least catch it.
> As far as I'm aware, these patches don't introduce cases where we would
> make the AioContext in the graph inconsistent. So I see the AioContext
> consistency assertions as a separate patch series (which I will work on
> next...hopefully not to discover horrible problems!).
>
>> And furthermore, basically all the calls to acquire an AIO context are of
>> the form "aio_context = bdrv_get_aio_context(bs);
>> aio_context_acquire(aio_context);". It is *extremely* unlikely if possible
>> at all, but wouldn't it be possible to change the BDS's AIO context from
>> another thread after the first function returned and before the lock is
>> acquired? If that is really the case, I think we should have some atomic
>> bdrv_acquire_aio_context() function.
> No, because only the main loop calls bdrv_set_aio_context(). At the
> moment the case you mentioned cannot happen.
>
> Ultimately, we should move away from "this only works in the main loop"
> constraints. In order to provide atomic BDS AioContext acquire we need
> a global root that is thread-safe. That doesn't exist today -
> bdrv_states is protected by the QEMU global mutex only.
>
> I thought about adding the infrastructure in this patch series but it is
> not necessary yet and would make the series more complicated.
>
> The idea is:
>
> * Add bdrv_states_lock to protect the global list of BlockDriverStates
> * Integrate bdrv_ref()/bdrv_unref() as well as bdrv_get_aio_context()
> so they are atomic and protected by the bdrv_states_lock
>
> So bdrv_find() and other functions that access bdrv_states become the
> entry points to acquiring BlockDriverStates in a thread-safe fashion.
> bdrv_unref() will need rethinking too to prevent races between freeing a
> BDS and bdrv_find().
>
> Can you think of a place where we need this today? I haven't found one
> yet but would like one to develop the code against.
No, I can't think of anything, as long as QMP commands always arrive
through the main loop.
Thank you for your explanations!
Max
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-07 15:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-01 17:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/11] block: allow blockjobs to coexist with dataplane Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-01 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/11] block: acquire AioContext in generic blockjob QMP commands Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-01 18:27 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-01 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/11] blockdev: acquire AioContext in do_qmp_query_block_jobs_one() Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-01 18:32 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-01 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/11] blockdev: acquire AioContext in blockdev_mark_auto_del() Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-01 18:39 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-01 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/11] blockdev: add note that block_job_cb() must be thread-safe Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-01 18:42 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-01 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/11] blockjob: add block_job_defer_to_main_loop() Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-01 19:06 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-02 14:58 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-01 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/11] block: add bdrv_drain() Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-01 19:15 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-01 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/11] block: let backup blockjob run in BDS AioContext Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-01 19:38 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-02 15:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-04 19:54 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-01 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/11] block: let stream " Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-04 20:48 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-01 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/11] block: let mirror " Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-04 21:07 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-01 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/11] block: let commit " Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-04 21:28 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-06 9:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-07 15:18 ` Max Reitz [this message]
2014-10-01 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/11] block: declare blockjobs and dataplane friends! Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-04 21:30 ` Max Reitz
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