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From: Christophe Carton <christophe.carton@ixblue.com>
To: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>,
	Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: [Xenomai] Round robin scheduling seem not working in a specific case...
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 14:49:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5458D96B.8000605@ixblue.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5458D32E.4020301@xenomai.org>


Le 04/11/2014 14:22, Philippe Gerum a écrit :
> On 11/04/2014 12:46 PM, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 12:43:00PM +0100, Philippe Gerum wrote:
>>> On 11/04/2014 11:34 AM, Christophe Carton wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I am currently working with Xenomai 2.6.4 with native skin and with a
>>>> Linux kernel 3.14.17.
>>>> The linux and the xenomai have been taken from the following Git
>>>> repositories :
>>>> * http://git.xenomai.org/xenomai-2.6.git - tag v2.6.4
>>>> * http://git.xenomai.org/ipipe.git - tag ipipe-core-3.14.17-x86-4
>>>>
>>>> I am encountering a problem to enable the Round Robin scheduler in a
>>>> specific case :
>>>> * Two tasks ("rr task 1" and "rr task 2") of priority 10 are launched by
>>>> a task ("init task") of priority 90.
>>>> * All 3 of them are configured with a RR scheduler via "rt_task_slice"
>>>> API before they are started.
>>>> In this case the FIFO scheduling seems to be applied (could be seen via
>>>> rt_printf logs).
>>>>
>>>> I have found a thread on the mailing list that gives an example
>>>> demonstrating the good behavior of the RR scheduler.
>>>> http://www.xenomai.org/pipermail/xenomai/2011-November/024897.html
>>>> http://www.xenomai.org/pipermail/xenomai/2011-November/024899.html
>>>> This example implies that the tasks are locked via a semaphore at
>>>> startup and that this semaphore is unlocked by the main when all threads
>>>> have been started.
>>>> This is necessary in this case due to the fact that the main function is
>>>> no an RT task.
>>>>
>>>> This implementation (with the semaphore) applied to my test works. Why
>>>> is the semaphore needed in my case?
>>> init_task() is switched to non-rt mode by rt_task_create(), so that a
>>> regular pthread is first created by the glibc, prior to extending it
>>> with Xenomai capabilities. In 2.6.x, this operation leaves the caller
>>> (i.e. init_task() in your case) in relaxed/secondary mode, which means
>>> that it is assigned the lowest priority level in the Xenomai scheduler,
>>> below the RR class.
>>>
>>> Given that, in your code, no Xenomai syscall following the first
>>> rt_task_create() have the requirement to switch the caller back to
>>> primary/rt mode, including rt_task_start() which is issued for task_1.
>>> Hence init_task() won't compete with task() which is assigned the
>>> real-time RR priority you asked for on entry.
>>>
>>> IOW, if you don't make the children wait on a barrier until the parent
>>> has set the whole thing up, the first call to rt_task_start() will
>>> unleash task_1, which will in turn start spinning immediately in its
>>> work loop as init_task() is on a lower priority level, locking up CPU#1.
>>>
>> Right. You can probably avoid that by enabling the deprecated option
>> CONFIG_XENO_OPT_PRIOCPL in the kernel configuration.
>>
> I would not recommend to rely on this option, as you know we killed it
> in 3.x because we could never have it working 100% reliably. The only
> sane way otherwise is to synchronize the parent and the child thread
> internally at thread creation to preserve the priority order, without
> requiring the start call to switch to secondary mode, but only 3.x
> implements this.
>

Thanks for your replies.
I do now understand why my code example is not working like I supposed 
it should have.

It looks like rt_task_create() and rt_task_start() switches the caller 
in relaxed/secondary mode. This explains the behavior that I have noticed.
I have read the doxygen documentation about those two API and I did not 
find this behavior explained.
How could we know which API switches the caller's mode to primary/rt or 
to relaxed/secondary or maybe does not affect the mode?

Best regards

-- 

*Christophe Carton *




  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-04 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-04 10:34 [Xenomai] Round robin scheduling seem not working in a specific case Christophe Carton
2014-11-04 10:41 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2014-11-04 10:59   ` Christophe Carton
2014-11-04 11:43 ` Philippe Gerum
2014-11-04 11:46   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2014-11-04 13:22     ` Philippe Gerum
2014-11-04 13:49       ` Christophe Carton [this message]
2014-11-04 14:05         ` Philippe Gerum
2014-11-04 14:09           ` Christophe Carton
2014-11-05 11:25             ` Christophe Carton
2014-11-05 13:33               ` Philippe Gerum
2014-11-05 14:11                 ` Christophe Carton
2014-11-05 14:36                   ` Philippe Gerum
2014-11-05 14:36                     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2014-11-05 15:13                     ` Christophe Carton

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