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From: Phillip Susi <psusi@ubuntu.com>
To: Robert White <rwhite@pobox.com>, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: scrub implies failing drive - smartctl blissfully unaware
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:34:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <546E5066.1040107@ubuntu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <546D1AD3.2010206@pobox.com>

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On 11/19/2014 5:33 PM, Robert White wrote:
>> That would be fake raid, not hardware raid.
> 
> The LSI MegaRaid controller people would _love_ to hear more about
> your insight into how their battery-backed multi-drive RAID
> controller is "fake". You should go work for them. Try the "contact
> us" link at the bottom of this page. I'm sure they are waiting for
> your insight with baited breath!

Forgive me, I should have trimmed the quote a bit more.  I was
responding specifically to the "many mother boards have hardware RAID
support available through the bios" part, not the lsi part.

> Odd, my MegaRaid controller takes about fifteen seconds
> by-the-clock to initialize and to the integrity check on my single
> initialized drive.

It is almost certainly spending those 15 seconds on something else,
like bootstrapping its firmware code from a slow serial eeprom or
waiting for you to press the magic key to enter the bios utility.  I
would be very surprised to see that time double if you add a second
disk.  If it does, then they are doing something *very* wrong, and
certainly quite different from any other real or fake raid controller
I've ever used.

> It's amazing that with a fail and retry it would be _faster_...

I have no idea what you are talking about here.  I said that they
aren't going to retry a read that *succeeded* but came back without
their magic signature.  It isn't like reading it again is going to
magically give different results.


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-20 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1XqYMg-0000YI-8y@watricky.valid.co.za>
2014-11-18  7:29 ` scrub implies failing drive - smartctl blissfully unaware Brendan Hide
2014-11-18  7:36   ` Roman Mamedov
2014-11-18 13:24     ` Brendan Hide
2014-11-18 15:16       ` Duncan
2014-11-18 12:08   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-11-18 13:25     ` Brendan Hide
2014-11-18 16:02     ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-18 15:35   ` Marc MERLIN
2014-11-18 16:04     ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-18 16:11       ` Marc MERLIN
2014-11-18 16:26         ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-18 18:57     ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-18 20:58       ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19  2:40         ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-19 15:11           ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-20  0:05             ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-25 21:34               ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-25 23:13                 ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-26  1:53                   ` Rich Freeman
2014-12-01 19:10                   ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-28 15:02                 ` Patrik Lundquist
2014-11-19  2:46         ` Duncan
2014-11-19 16:07           ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19 21:05             ` Robert White
2014-11-19 21:47               ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19 22:25                 ` Robert White
2014-11-20 20:26                   ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-20 22:45                     ` Robert White
2014-11-21 15:11                       ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-21 21:12                         ` Robert White
2014-11-21 21:41                           ` Robert White
2014-11-22 22:06                           ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19 22:33                 ` Robert White
2014-11-20 20:34                   ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2014-11-20 23:08                     ` Robert White
2014-11-21 15:27                       ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-20  0:25               ` Duncan
2014-11-20  2:08                 ` Robert White
2014-11-19 23:59             ` Duncan
2014-11-25 22:14               ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-28 15:55                 ` Patrik Lundquist
2014-11-21  4:58   ` Zygo Blaxell
2014-11-21  7:05     ` Brendan Hide
2014-11-21 12:55       ` Ian Armstrong
2014-11-21 17:45         ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-22  7:18           ` Ian Armstrong
2014-11-21 17:42       ` Zygo Blaxell
2014-11-21 18:06         ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-22  2:25           ` Zygo Blaxell

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