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From: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
To: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail.com>
Cc: John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@intel.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [patch net-next v3 02/17] net: make vid as a parameter for ndo_fdb_add/ndo_fdb_del
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:19:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <547546C5.3060207@mojatatu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE4R7bD1Hi+fnKp-Sg6Tn4AcpOu2pwgEYecP8LVA1ioO4FkgRQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/25/14 21:36, Scott Feldman wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com> wrote:
>> On 11/25/14 11:30, John Fastabend wrote:

>> Ok, guess i am gonna have to go stare at the code some more.
>> I thought we returned one of the error codes?
>> A bitmask would work for a single entry - because you have two
>> options add to h/ware and/or s/ware. So response is easy to encode.
>> But if i have 1000 and they are sparsely populated (think an indexed
>> table and i have indices 1, 23, 45, etc), then a bitmask would be
>> hard to use.
>
> I'm confused by this discussion.

This is about the policy which states "install as many as you can, dont
worry about failures". In such a case, how do you tell user space back
"oh, btw you know your request #1, #23, and 45 went ok, but nothing else
worked". A simple return code wont work. You could return a code to
say "some worked". At which case user space could dump and find out only
#1, #23 and #45 worked.

Your question below is a different context; Some people may want
the policy where whats in hardware
a) gets to be seen in software and b) allow for destination lookup
failures in hardware to show up in the kernel, refresh the fdb in the
kernel via learning
and c) whats in s.ware gets synced to hardware just because there's
space in the hardware
I dont want any of the above;-> Which would work if we had policy knobs.
Learning, flooding, sync from hardware. Speaking of the last one:
Where is my cookie Scott? I want my cookie.

cheers,
jamal


> Do I have this right: You want to
> send 1000 RTM_NEWNEIGHs to PF_BRIDGE with both NTF_MASTER and NTF_SELF
> set such that 1000 new FBD entries are installed in both (SW) the
> bridge's FDB and (HW) the port driver's FDB.  My first confusion is
> why do you want these FBD entries in bridge's FDB?  We're offloading
> the switching to HW so HW should be handling fwd plane.  If ctrl pkt
> make it to SW, it can learn those FDB entries;
> no need for manual
> install of FDB entry in SW.  It seems to me you only want to use
> NTF_SELF to install the FDB entry in HW using the port driver.  And an
> error code is returned for that install.  Since there is only one
> target (NTF_SELF) there is no need for bitmask return.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-26  3:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-25 10:28 [patch net-next v3 00/17] introduce rocker switch driver with hardware accelerated datapath api - phase 1: bridge fdb offload Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 01/17] bridge: rename fdb_*_hw to fdb_*_hw_addr to avoid confusion Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 15:03   ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 15:26   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 22:11   ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-25 22:33   ` Florian Fainelli
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 02/17] net: make vid as a parameter for ndo_fdb_add/ndo_fdb_del Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 15:13   ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 15:18     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 15:43       ` John Fastabend
2014-11-25 16:38         ` Jiri Pirko
2014-12-09 11:57         ` Or Gerlitz
2014-11-25 15:38   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 16:01     ` John Fastabend
2014-11-25 16:18       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 16:30         ` John Fastabend
2014-11-25 16:50           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-26  1:44             ` Simon Horman
2014-11-26  2:36             ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-26  3:19               ` Jamal Hadi Salim [this message]
2014-11-26  3:59                 ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-26 11:28                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-26 11:40                     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-26 11:54                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-26 12:06                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-27  6:50                     ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-27 12:14                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-27 20:59                         ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-27 21:55                           ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-28 12:57                             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-28 10:14               ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-11-28 10:33                 ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-25 16:19     ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-11-25 16:33       ` John Fastabend
2014-11-25 16:57         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 16:43       ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 18:53   ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2014-11-25 20:40     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 22:14   ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-25 22:39     ` Florian Fainelli
2014-11-25 23:11       ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-26  7:54     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 03/17] net: rename netdev_phys_port_id to more generic name Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 15:15   ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 15:44   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 04/17] net: introduce generic switch devices support Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 15:02   ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 15:51   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 16:49     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 17:08       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 21:54         ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-26  3:33           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-26  4:18             ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-26 11:36               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-26 16:08                 ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-26 17:09                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-26 17:59                     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-26 21:50                       ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-26 23:32                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-27 13:03                           ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-27 13:32                             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-27 13:50                               ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-28 13:13                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-27  5:58                 ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-27 12:46                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-27  3:13             ` Simon Horman
2014-11-27 12:35               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 16:07   ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-11-25 16:50     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 05/17] rtnl: expose physical switch id for particular device Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 15:16   ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 06/17] net-sysfs: " Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 15:28   ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 15:53   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 22:27   ` Florian Fainelli
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 07/17] rocker: introduce rocker switch driver Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 15:57   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 16:57     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 17:10     ` David Miller
2014-11-25 17:15       ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 17:15         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 17:51         ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 16:13   ` David Laight
2014-11-25 19:19     ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-25 21:57       ` tgraf
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 08/17] bridge: call netdev_sw_port_stp_update when bridge port STP status changes Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 15:58   ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 16:53     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 22:18       ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-25 22:20     ` Florian Fainelli
2014-11-25 22:48   ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-11-26  1:35     ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-28 10:05       ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-11-28 10:51         ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-28 13:17           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-28 13:27             ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-28 16:23             ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 09/17] bridge: add API to notify bridge driver of learned FBD on offloaded device Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 16:01   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 16:38   ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 22:36     ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-26  1:48       ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-26 10:26         ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 22:44   ` Florian Fainelli
2014-11-26  2:03     ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-26  2:34       ` Florian Fainelli
2014-11-26  2:40         ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-26  8:16           ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-26  3:22     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 10/17] rocker: implement rocker ofdpa flow table manipulation Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 16:03   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 11/17] rocker: implement L2 bridge offloading Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 16:04   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 17:11     ` David Miller
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 12/17] rocker: implement ndo_fdb_dump Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 16:04   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 13/17] bridge: move private brport flags to if_bridge.h so port drivers can use flags Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 16:01   ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 16:05   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 22:20   ` Florian Fainelli
2014-11-25 22:48   ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-26 12:12     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 14/17] bridge: add new brport flag LEARNING_SYNC Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 16:05   ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-11-25 16:06   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 16:40   ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 15/17] bridge: add new hwmode swdev Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 16:03   ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-11-25 16:17     ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 22:56       ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-25 16:07   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 23:00     ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 16/17] bridge: add brport flags to dflt bridge_getlink Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 16:08   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 17:02     ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-25 17:48   ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-11-25 22:07   ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-26  9:25     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-26 10:48       ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-25 10:28 ` [patch net-next v3 17/17] rocker: add ndo_bridge_setlnk/getlink support for learning policy Jiri Pirko
2014-11-25 16:09   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 18:55     ` Scott Feldman
2014-11-25 19:00       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-11-25 20:42         ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-26 11:07   ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-26 11:27     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-11-26 11:30       ` Thomas Graf
2014-11-26 11:42         ` Jiri Pirko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-11-26  7:35 [patch net-next v3 02/17] net: make vid as a parameter for ndo_fdb_add/ndo_fdb_del Arad, Ronen

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