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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: kdump with xen-unstable on efi machine
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:05:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54770582.80207@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1417081768.11944.70.camel@citrix.com>

On 27/11/14 09:49, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 14:26 +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> libxc (or some new alternative) should suck it up and gain some notion
>> of a stable API or ABI (like the rest of the world appears to be able to
>> manage), such that it is possible to compile with an older header and
>> use a newer .so at runtime.
> Retrofitting a stable API/ABI to the melting pot which is libxc simply
> isn't going to work in practice.
>
> IMO the most likely to succeed approach would be to split off the bits
> of libxc which 3rd party's can/should/need to rely on into one of more
> libraries, probably by functional area.
>
> So far I'm aware of plans (or at least desires) to do that for:
>
>       * Interfaces used by device-models/qemu.
>       * The bits which are useful inside a guest (i.e. the
>         various /dev/xen/* related helpers).
>
> So it sounds like libxenkexec should be added to that list.
>
> Ian.
>

Agreed.

For a domU, I think we need libxenevt, libxengnt and libxenstore with
stable API and ABIs.  This in turn will permit libvchan to work without
needing libxenctrl.

For dom0, each of the libraries is going to need basic hypercall
functionality.  It might be worth considering making libxenbasic (name
looking for improvement) which is more along the lines of a privcmd
driver, providing do_hypercall() and bounce buffering.  libxenctrl and
others can then avoid reimplementing the wheel many times.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-27 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-26 12:15 kdump with xen-unstable on efi machine Juergen Gross
2014-11-26 12:41 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-11-26 14:01   ` Juergen Gross
2014-11-26 14:26     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-11-27  9:49       ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-27 11:05         ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2014-11-27 11:32           ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-27 11:51             ` Andrew Cooper
2014-11-26 14:30     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-11-26 14:49       ` Juergen Gross
2014-11-27  0:19         ` Daniel Kiper
2014-11-27  5:40           ` Juergen Gross

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