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From: Linda Knippers <linda.knippers@hp.com>
To: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Ethan Zhao <ethan.zhao@oracle.com>,
	dirk.j.brandewie@intel.com, viresh.kumar@linaro.org,
	corbet@lwn.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	ethan.kernel@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 18:03:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5480E829.2020805@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141204143853.1adf98d8@kcaccard-desk.amr.corp.intel.com>

On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
> "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
>>> To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
>>> parameter
>>>
>>>   intel_pstate = ora_force
>>
>> I would suggest to change the name of the option to "oracle_force" or "sun_force"
>> for clarity.
>>
>> Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.
>>
>>> For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
>>> try to get better performance with this driver.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao <ethan.zhao@oracle.com>
>>> ---
>>>  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
>>>  v4: refine code and doc.
>>>  v5&v6: fix a typo in doc.
>>>  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.
>>>
>>>  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +++++
>>>  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c      | 6 +++++-
>>>  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be entirely omitted.
>>>  		       disable
>>>  		         Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
>>>  		         scaling driver for the supported processors
>>> +		       ora_force
>>> +			 Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
>>> +			 only for those who be aware of the risk of no power capping
>>> +			 capability working and try to get better performance with this
>>> +			 driver.
>>
>> That is not sufficiently clear.  What does "risk of no power capping capability
>> working" mean, in particular?
>>
>>>  
>>>  	intremap=	[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
>>>  			on	enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
>>> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>>> index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>>> @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
>>>  };
>>>  
>>>  static int __initdata no_load;
>>> +static unsigned int  ora_force;
>>>  
>>>  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
>>>  {
>>> @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
>>>  			case PSS:
>>>  				return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
>>>  			case PPC:
>>> -				return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
>>> +				return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
>>> +					(!ora_force);
>>>  			}
>>>  	}
>>>  
>>> @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
>>>  
>>>  	if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))
>>>  		no_load = 1;
>>> +	if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
>>> +		ora_force = 1;
>>>  	return 0;
>>>  }
>>>  early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);
>>
>> And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a "force" option that would
>> work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?
>>
> 
> That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
> checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
> it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
> oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
> think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
when you have dueling power management.

The description would need to be different too since I think on
ProLiant, power capping can happen at any time, even if the
system is in OS control mode and the intel_pstate driver is
loaded.

Can anyone suggest a description for a force option that would
make sense generically?

-- ljk




  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-04 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-04  2:07 [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers Ethan Zhao
2014-12-04  2:22 ` ethan zhao
2014-12-04 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-12-04 22:38   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2014-12-04 23:03     ` Linda Knippers [this message]
2014-12-05  2:05       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-12-05  3:50         ` Linda Knippers
2014-12-05  3:38       ` ethan zhao
2014-12-05  4:56         ` Linda Knippers
2014-12-05  5:52           ` ethan zhao
2014-12-05  2:23     ` ethan zhao
2014-12-05  2:14   ` ethan zhao

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