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From: Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@inwind.it>
To: Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>
Cc: dsterba@suse.cz, Dimitri John Ledkov <xnox@debian.org>,
	cwillu <cwillu@cwillu.com>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zygo Blaxell <zblaxell@furryterror.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2] mount.btrfs helper
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 20:51:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54820CD7.8000808@inwind.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1417805015.4845.0@mail.thefacebook.com>

Hi Chris,

On 12/05/2014 07:43 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Goffredo Baroncelli
> <kreijack@inwind.it> wrote:
>> On 12/05/2014 05:41 PM, David Sterba wrote:
>>> We're looking for good reasons to justify the existence of the
>>> helper, but this is still not enough IMHO. I can see the
>>> convenience to do it automatically, but this assumes no udev
>>> available which is probably rare these days.
>> 
>> I have the following reasons to support a mount.btrfs helper: 


>> 1) it
>> is in a good point to check that everything is ok (see the thread 
>> related LVM snapshot, due to a dev.uuid conflicts), 

>> 2) it is in a
>> good point to issue a good error explanation (missing device....) 

>> 3) it may handle case like "degraded" mode, where the filesystem is
>> not fully functional but even as degraded have "some"
>> functionals..
> 
> Ok, these three things are worth improving, but I'd like to take a
> slightly different direction.  Instead of recreating chunks of btrfs
> dev scan, lets extend btrfs dev scan to at the very least understand
> #1 and #2.  As much as possible we want to be leveraging the data in
> udev instead of recreating that functionality.
> 
> #3 is a slightly different feature, but we can have an extended btrfs
> dev scan or 

> show explain the state of the filesystem to you.
This is good suggestions

> From there if we really need a mount helper, it can either use a
> libbtrfs to hit the scan code or be a bash script.
 
> Thanks for trying to smooth our or wrinkles in this area.  It's
> definitely worth working on, I just want to make sure we recreate as
> little infrastructure as possible ;)

This is an RFC because I am not sure about the "right" direction.
My first goal is more to start a "sane" discussion, than provide a 
solution.

But I have to point out that "btrfs device scan" usually is started
by udev, so no possibility to show [see] an error. More, btrfs dev scan is
started on a device "alone", from which is impossible to check
dev.uuid conflicts... [except if you accept to extend the analysis 
to all devices] [*]

Finally, if you fear that my mount helper "recreates too much 
infrastructure"... this is true, but it is an implementation
problem; now I am looking for a "high level" solution.

Goffredo


[*] BTW, give a look to "[PATCH V2][BTRFS-PROGS] Don't use 
LVM snapshot device", patch #5; this patch try to add a 
check about the dev.uuid conflicts; showing an error in this
case...

> 
> -chris
> 
> 
> 
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-05 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-30 17:43 [RFC][PATCH v2] mount.btrfs helper Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-11-30 22:11 ` Dimitri John Ledkov
2014-11-30 22:31   ` cwillu
2014-11-30 22:57     ` Dimitri John Ledkov
2014-11-30 23:27       ` cwillu
2014-12-05 15:32       ` Chris Mason
2014-12-05 16:01         ` Dimitri John Ledkov
2014-12-05 16:41           ` David Sterba
2014-12-05 18:15             ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-12-05 18:43               ` Chris Mason
2014-12-05 19:51                 ` Goffredo Baroncelli [this message]
2014-12-09 12:16                   ` David Sterba
2014-12-09 10:55                 ` David Sterba
2014-12-09 10:35           ` David Sterba
2014-12-04  2:09 ` Anand Jain
2014-12-04 17:58   ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-12-05  3:16     ` Anand Jain

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