Re: BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again

[Robert White <rwhite@pobox.com>]

On 12/27/2014 05:01 PM, Bardur Arantsson wrote:
> On 2014-12-28 01:25, Robert White wrote:
>> On 12/27/2014 08:01 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>>>>  From how you write I get the impression that you think everyone else
>>> beside you is just silly and dumb. Please stop this assumption. I may not
>>> always get terms right, and I may make a mistake as with the wrong df
>>> figure. But I also highly dislike to feel treated like someone who
>>> doesn´t
>>> know a thing.
>>
>> Nope. I'm a systems theorist and I demand/require variable isolation.
>>
>> Not a question of "silly" or "dumb" but a question of "speaking with
>> sufficient precision and clarity".
>>
>> For instance you speak of "having an impression" and then decide I've
>> made an assumption.
>>
>> I define my position. Explain my terms. Give my examples.
>>
>> I also risk being utterly wrong because sometimes being completely wrong
>> gets others to cut away misconceptions and assumptions.
>>
>> It annoys some people, but it gets results.
>
> Can you please stop this bullshit posturing nonsense? It accomlishes
> nothing -- if you're right your other posts will stand for themselves
> and show that you are indeed "the shit" when it comes to these matters,
> but this post (so far, didn't read further) accomplishes nothing other
> than (possibly) convincing everyone that you're a pompous/self-important
> ass.

Really? "accomplishes nothing"?

24 hours ago:

the complaining party was talking about

- Windows XP
- Tax software
- Virtual box
- vdi files
- defragging
- balancing
- "data trees"
- system hanging

And the responding party was saying

"you are the only person reporting this as a regular occurrence" with 
the implication that the report was a duplicate or at least might not 
get much immediate attention.

Now:

The complaining party has verified the minimum, repeatable case of 
simple file allocation on a very fragmented system and the responding 
party and several others have understood and supported the bug.

That's not "accomplishing nothing", thats called engaging in diagnostics 
instead of dismissing a complaint, and sticking out the diagnostic 
process until everyone is on the same page.

I never dismissed Martin. I never disbelieved him. I went through his 
elements one at a time with examples of what I was taking away from him 
and why they didn't match expectations and experimental evidence. We 
adjusted our positions and communications.

So you can call it "bullshit posturing nonsense" but I see "taking less 
than a day to get to the bottom of a bug report that might not have 
gotten significant attention."