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From: Anssi Hannula <anssi.hannula@iki.fi>
To: Xuebing Wang <xbing6@gmail.com>
Cc: "Yang, Libin" <libin.yang@intel.com>,
	"alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	"; Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>,
	"Lin, Mengdong" <mengdong.lin@intel.com>,
	"; Wu Fengguang" <wfg@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrej Falout <andrej@falout.org>
Subject: Re: DSD over HDMI: audio data packetization
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 05:46:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54AA0914.4000109@iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1420341058.1981.6.camel@gmail.com>

04.01.2015, 05:10, Xuebing Wang kirjoitti:
> Anssi, Libin,
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> After a little bit of research, I do think it is possible to stream DSD
> over HDMI (the mechanism is as Anssi mentioned, similar way as HBR).
> 
> Please see HDA spec:
> 3.7.1 Stream Format Structure
> (If the TYPE is set to Non-PCM, the controller just pushes data over the
> link and is not concerned
> with formatting. The base rate, data type, and number of Words (MULT) to
> send each valid frame
> are specified to control the rate at which the non-PCM data is sent.)
> 
> 7.3.3.8 Converter Format
> 
> What do you think? In order to implement this similiar mechanism
> (similar to HBR), I still have some detailed questions that I will write
> in another email. Thanks.

That setting will still not allow you to send One-bit audio or DST
packets. The stream will still be encapsulated in either ASP or HBR
packets, depending on the value of the EPT field (Encoded Packet Type,
7.3.3.13).


> 
> On Thu, 2015-01-01 at 06:37 +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>> 01.01.2015, 04:07, Yang, Libin kirjoitti:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Anssi Hannula [mailto:anssi.hannula@iki.fi]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 11:45 PM
>>>> To: Xuebing Wang
>>>> Cc: Yang, Libin; alsa-devel@alsa-project.org; Lin, Mengdong; ; Takashi Iwai; ;
>>>> Wu Fengguang
>>>> Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] DSD over HDMI: audio data packetization
>>>>
>>>> 31.12.2014, 17:38, Xuebing Wang kirjoitti:
>>>>> Anssi, Libin,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> If L-PCM audio data packetization is done by hardware, is it possible
>>>>> to implement DSD over HDMI on Intel integrated graphics? Thanks again.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so, unless:
>>>>
>>>> (a) It is possible to somehow encapsulate the stream in Audio Sample
>>>> Packets and be accepted by the receiver (like e.g. AC3, DTS). I'm not aware of
>>>> such a way.
>>>>
>>>> or:
>>>> (b) There is some undocumented feature in the Intel HDMI codecs allowing
>>>> the driver to switch to DSD or driver-constructed packets (instead of
>>>> ASP) in similar way as there is a way to switch to HBR packets.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I agree. And I'm not sure whether HDMI spec supports DSD.
>>
>> It does, via the "One Bit Audio" and "DST" formats (spec 5.3.9, 5.3.10
>> in 1.3a/1.4a).
> 
> 


-- 
Anssi Hannula

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-05  3:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-31 13:32 DSD over HDMI: audio data packetization Xuebing Wang
2014-12-31 13:40 ` Anssi Hannula
2014-12-31 14:28   ` Yang, Libin
2014-12-31 15:38     ` Xuebing Wang
2014-12-31 15:45       ` Anssi Hannula
2015-01-01  2:07         ` Yang, Libin
2015-01-01  4:37           ` Anssi Hannula
2015-01-04  3:10             ` Xuebing Wang
2015-01-05  3:46               ` Anssi Hannula [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <CAGzU1+F0Os59UwRXRpZQnibDeT0KLK1UqX__Qv9=agwQTkZWyg@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-06  4:49                   ` Anssi Hannula
2015-01-06  6:15                     ` Andrej Falout
2015-01-06  7:02                       ` Anssi Hannula
2015-01-06  4:54                   ` Xuebing Wang

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