From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Kent Overstreet <kmo@daterainc.com>
Cc: Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>,
Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 3.19-rc3
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 07:55:39 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54ABDB4B.7070008@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150106122006.GW29390@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
[ +cc Paul McKenney ]
On 01/06/2015 07:20 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 04:01:21AM -0800, Kent Overstreet wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 12:48:42PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at that closure stuff, why is there an smp_mb() in
>>> closure_wake_up() ? Typically wakeup only needs to imply a wmb.
>>>
>>> Also note that __closure_wake_up() starts with a fully serializing
>>> instruction (xchg) and thereby already implies the full barrier.
>>
>> Probably no good reason, that code is pretty old :)
>>
>> If I was to hazard a guess, I had my own lockless linked lists before llist.h
>> existed and perhaps I did it with atomic_xchg() - which was at least documented
>> to not imply a barrier. I suppose it should just be dropped.
>
> We (probably me) should probably audit all the atomic_xchg()
> implementations and documentation and fix that. I was very much under
> the impression it should imply a full barrier (and it certainly does on
> x86), the documentation should state the rule that any atomic_ function
> that returns a result is fully serializing, therefore, because
> atomic_xchg() has a return value, it should too.
memory-barriers.txt and atomic_ops.txt appear to contradict each other here,
but I think that's because atomic_ops.txt has drifted toward an
arch-implementer's POV:
260:atomic_xchg requires explicit memory barriers around the operation.
All the serializing atomic operations have descriptions like this.
Regards,
Peter Hurley
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-06 12:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-06 4:49 Linux 3.19-rc3 Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 9:34 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 9:56 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-06 10:06 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 10:28 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-06 10:31 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 10:37 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-06 10:42 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 9:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 9:42 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 9:57 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 10:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 10:18 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 11:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 11:07 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-06 11:25 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 11:40 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-06 12:51 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-01-06 11:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 12:01 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-06 12:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 12:45 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-06 12:55 ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2015-01-06 17:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-06 17:58 ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-06 19:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-06 19:57 ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-06 20:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-20 0:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-20 14:03 ` Peter Hurley
2015-02-02 16:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-02 19:03 ` Peter Hurley
2015-02-02 19:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-06 11:56 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-06 12:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 12:43 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-06 13:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 13:28 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-13 15:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-06 12:18 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-01-16 16:56 ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-16 17:00 ` Chris Mason
2015-01-16 18:58 ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-06 10:29 ` Sedat Dilek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-01-06 1:46 Linus Torvalds
2015-01-06 2:46 ` Dave Jones
2015-01-06 8:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-06 9:45 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-01-08 12:51 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-08 12:51 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-08 13:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 13:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 17:29 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-08 17:29 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-08 17:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 17:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 18:48 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-08 18:48 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-08 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-09 23:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-09 23:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-10 0:35 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-10 0:35 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-10 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 2:51 ` David Lang
2015-01-10 2:51 ` David Lang
2015-01-10 3:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 3:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 10:46 ` Andreas Mohr
2015-01-10 10:46 ` Andreas Mohr
2015-01-10 19:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 19:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-13 3:33 ` Rik van Riel
2015-01-13 3:33 ` Rik van Riel
2015-01-13 10:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-13 10:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-10 3:17 ` Tony Luck
2015-01-10 3:17 ` Tony Luck
2015-01-10 20:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-10 20:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-10 21:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 21:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 21:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-10 21:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-10 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-12 11:37 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-12 11:37 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-12 12:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-12 12:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-12 13:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 13:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 14:23 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-12 14:23 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-12 15:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 15:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 11:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-12 11:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-12 13:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 13:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-08 15:08 ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-08 15:08 ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-08 15:08 ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-08 16:37 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-08 16:37 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-08 16:37 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-09 15:56 ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-09 15:56 ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-09 15:56 ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-09 12:13 ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-09 12:13 ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-09 14:19 ` Steve Capper
2015-01-09 14:19 ` Steve Capper
2015-01-09 14:27 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-09 14:27 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-09 17:57 ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-09 17:57 ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-09 18:37 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-09 18:37 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-09 19:43 ` Will Deacon
2015-01-09 19:43 ` Will Deacon
2015-01-10 3:29 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-01-10 3:29 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-01-10 4:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 4:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 13:37 ` Will Deacon
2015-01-10 13:37 ` Will Deacon
2015-01-10 19:47 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-01-10 19:47 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-01-10 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 20:08 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-01-10 20:08 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-01-10 19:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-10 19:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-12 12:42 ` Will Deacon
2015-01-12 12:42 ` Will Deacon
2015-01-12 13:22 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-12 13:22 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-12 19:03 ` Dave Hansen
2015-01-12 19:03 ` Dave Hansen
2015-01-12 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-12 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-12 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-12 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-12 19:24 ` Will Deacon
2015-01-12 19:24 ` Will Deacon
2015-01-10 15:22 ` Kyle McMartin
2015-01-10 15:22 ` Kyle McMartin
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