From: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
To: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
simon.horman@netronome.com, sfeldma@gmail.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
gerlitz.or@gmail.com, andy@greyhouse.net, ast@plumgrid.com
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH v3 00/12] Flow API
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 08:22:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54C39C8E.4@mojatatu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150123174609.GA23242@casper.infradead.org>
On 01/23/15 12:46, Thomas Graf wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand the offload qdisc yet. My interpretation
> so far is that it would contain childs which *must* be offloaded.
>
> How would one transparently offload tc in this model? e.g. let's
> assume we have a simple prio qdisc with u32 cls:
>
> eth0
> prio
> class
> class
> ...
> u32 ...
> u32 ...
>
My view is:
It is up to user space to decide on what the policy should do.
The kernel is not paid to think. You tell it what to do and it does it
efficiently. So if you are going to tell it to have a mix and match
of some things to execute in hardware and some in software then
it may shoot someone's big toe.
IOW, user space should decide how a packet is going to flow.
Agreed that we would need a good way to provide this knowledge
to user space.
BTW: Thomas, reading your other email quickly:
the idea that metadata would be carried around on OF pipeline and
some script at the end executes the actions is imo a hardware
pipeline hack limitation. Why do i want to defer dropping a packet
when some action is telling me to drop it? ;->
For some reason, brcm hardware in particulat requires that i
complete the pipeline first.
I dont know why we need such a limitation in s/ware (and tc will kill
the pipeline when needed).
Sorry, trying to post while doing other things so not paying close
attention to possibly other important details.
cheers,
jamal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-24 13:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-20 20:26 [net-next PATCH v3 00/12] Flow API John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:26 ` [net-next PATCH v3 01/12] net: flow_table: create interface for hw match/action tables John Fastabend
2015-01-22 4:37 ` Simon Horman
2015-01-20 20:27 ` [net-next PATCH v3 02/12] net: flow_table: add rule, delete rule John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:27 ` [net-next PATCH v3 03/12] net: flow: implement flow cache for get routines John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:27 ` [net-next PATCH v3 04/12] net: flow_table: create a set of common headers and actions John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:59 ` John W. Linville
2015-01-20 22:10 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:28 ` [net-next PATCH v3 05/12] net: flow_table: add validation functions for rules John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:28 ` [net-next PATCH v3 06/12] net: rocker: add pipeline model for rocker switch John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:29 ` [net-next PATCH v3 07/12] net: rocker: add set rule ops John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:29 ` [net-next PATCH v3 08/12] net: rocker: add group_id slices and drop explicit goto John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:30 ` [net-next PATCH v3 09/12] net: rocker: add multicast path to bridging John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:30 ` [net-next PATCH v3 10/12] net: rocker: add cookie to group acls and use flow_id to set cookie John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:31 ` [net-next PATCH v3 11/12] net: rocker: have flow api calls set cookie value John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:31 ` [net-next PATCH v3 12/12] net: rocker: implement delete flow routine John Fastabend
2015-01-22 12:52 ` [net-next PATCH v3 00/12] Flow API Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-22 13:37 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 14:00 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-22 15:00 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-22 15:13 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 15:28 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-22 15:37 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 15:44 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-23 10:10 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 10:24 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 11:08 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 11:39 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 12:28 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 13:43 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 14:07 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 15:25 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 15:43 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 15:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 15:49 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 16:00 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 15:34 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 15:53 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 16:00 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 16:08 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 16:16 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-24 13:04 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-23 17:46 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 19:59 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 23:16 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-24 13:22 ` Jamal Hadi Salim [this message]
2015-01-24 13:34 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-24 13:01 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-26 8:26 ` Simon Horman
2015-01-26 12:26 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-27 4:28 ` David Ahern
2015-01-27 4:58 ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-01-27 15:54 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-24 12:36 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-22 15:48 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-22 17:58 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 16:49 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-22 17:10 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-22 17:44 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-24 12:34 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-24 13:48 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 9:00 ` David Miller
2015-01-22 16:58 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 10:49 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 16:42 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-24 12:29 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
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