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From: Mark Nelson <mnelson@redhat.com>
To: John Spray <john.spray@redhat.com>,
	Alyona Kiselyova <akiselyova@mirantis.com>,
	"ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org" <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "ceph-calamari@lists.ceph.com" <ceph-calamari@lists.ceph.com>
Subject: Re: Tool for ceph performance analysis
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:14:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54EC8758.6050405@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54EC6BA9.3070405@redhat.com>

On 02/24/2015 06:16 AM, John Spray wrote:
>
> On 24/02/2015 11:57, John Spray wrote:
>>> It would be great, if there will be internal possibility to collect
>>> info about whole cluster from one node. May be, something like
>>> extension for "tell" command, which can call any node directly and
>>> replace external network connections. Or improved version of "ceph osd
>>> perf" command, which would allow to get more info.
>>>
>> This pretty much already exists if someone chooses to deploy
>> diamond+graphite.  Perhaps we need to talk about what's wrong with
>> that solution as it stands?  I'm guessing the main problem is that
>> it's less highly available than ceph mons, and comparatively
>> heavyweight, especially if one is only interested in the latest values.
> Ah, I also forgot to mention: it is not very hard to make a cut-down
> version of calamari that doesn't require lots of heavyweight
> dependencies.  I started building this a while back before switching
> tasks, but there's an old branch here:
> https://github.com/ceph/calamari/commits/wip-lite
>
> The key things there are that it doesn't require a postgres database,
> and the remote-execution is abstracted into a "Remote" interface so that
> you can implement alternatives to salt (e.g. SSH, or run locally on
> mon).  It's all free software so borrow what you wish ;-)  The point is
> that it isn't necessary to start from scratch in order to get something
> lightweight.

My personal vote is to try to get ourselves well integrated into a good 
cross section of the existing tools that already do this kind of thing 
(zabbix, collectd, collectl, etc).  I'm slightly guilty of rolling my 
own too since in cbt I gather up some of our daemon socket output from 
all the hosts via ssh and just dump it in the output directory.  There's 
tons of other systems out there that do this kind of thing way better 
though.  I don't want to discourage anyone from making a new tool if 
that's their preference, but I think a lot of folks would benefit if 
they could just keep using their existing monitoring tools.

Perhaps part of this might be to just try to get a better idea of which 
tools folks are using to do performance monitoring on their existing 
clusters (ceph or otherwise).  I've heard zabbix come up quite a bit 
recently.

Mark

>
> Cheers,
> John
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-24 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-24  8:40 Tool for ceph performance analysis Alyona Kiselyova
2015-02-24 11:57 ` John Spray
2015-02-24 12:16   ` John Spray
2015-02-24 14:14     ` Mark Nelson [this message]
     [not found]       ` <1780156480.1852442.1424793103509.JavaMail.zimbra@oxygem.tv>
2015-02-24 15:51         ` Alexandre DERUMIER
2015-02-25  1:45       ` Brad Hubbard
2015-02-25  1:48         ` Mark Nelson
2015-02-25  1:56           ` Brad Hubbard
2015-02-25  2:31             ` Brad Hubbard

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