From: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>
To: Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>
Cc: seabios@seabios.org, kraxel@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com,
quintela@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, agraf@suse.de,
alex.williamson@redhat.com, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, hare@suse.de,
imammedo@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
leon.alrae@imgtec.com, aurelien@aurel32.net, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 13/25] hw/acpi: remove from root bus 0 the crs resources used by other busses.
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 20:32:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54FC95C3.3010507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150308182610.GA18864@morn.localdomain>
On 03/08/2015 08:26 PM, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 07:51:42PM +0200, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
>> On 03/08/2015 06:13 PM, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
>>> If I read this correctly, it looks like a machine with two root buses
>>> and 20 devices, each with one memory range and one io range, would end
>>> up with 40 CRS ranges (ie, a CRS range for every resource).
>> Correct.
>>
>> As Michael pointed out in another thread, the firmware is considered
>> guest code and QEMU cannot assume anything on how the resources are
>> assigned. This is why this solution was chosen.
>>
>> However we have two things that make the situation a little better.
>> 1. The PXB implementation includes a pci-bridge and all devices are automatically
>> attached to the secondary bus, in this way we have one IO/MEM range per extra root bus.
>
> Out of curiosity, does the PXB implementation add the pci-bridge just
> to simplify the IO/MEM range, or are there other technical reasons for
> it?
We have another elephant there :) -> pci hotplug.
All the "free" memory ranges are assigned to bus 0, this will leave
the pxb buses without the hotplug capability.
Using a PCI bridge will give us some IO/MEM ranges for hotplug: the ones created
because of minimum requirement by PCI spec and not used currently by any devices.
>
>> 2. On top of this series we can add a merge algorithm that will bring together
>> consecutive ranges. This series does not include this optimization and it
>> focuses on the correctness.
>>
>> It also
>>> looks like this furthers the requirement that the guest firmware
>>> assign the PCI resources prior to QEMU being able to generate the ACPI
>>> tables.
>>>
>>> Am I correct? If so, that doesn't sound ideal.
>> You are correct, however is not that bad because we have the following sequence:
>> - Early in the boot sequence the bios scans the PCI buses and assigns IO/MEM ranges
>> - At this moment all resources needed by QEMU are present in the configuration space.
>> - At the end of the boot sequence the BIOS queries the ACPI tables and *only then*
>> the tables are computed.
>>
>> I think we use that implicitly for other features, anyway, it looks like an elegant
>> solution with no real drawbacks. (Our assumptions are safe)
>
> Thank you for the clarification. I understand that it works, but I've
> never been that comfortable with the QEMU<->firmware dance with PCI
> resources. I do understand that the alternatives have as many or more
> problems though. So, I'm not objecting to this implementation.
No problem, thank you and your review is much appreciated as always,
Marcel
>
> Cheers,
> -Kevin
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-08 18:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-08 11:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 00/25] hw/pc: implement multiple primary busses for pc machines Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 01/25] acpi: fix aml_equal term implementation Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 10:28 ` Igor Mammedov
2015-03-09 11:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-09 12:26 ` Igor Mammedov
2015-03-09 14:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 02/25] acpi: add aml_or() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 7:58 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-09 9:22 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 03/25] acpi: add aml_add() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 04/25] acpi: add aml_lless() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 8:03 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 05/25] acpi: add aml_index() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 10:39 ` Igor Mammedov
2015-03-09 11:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-09 11:37 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 06/25] acpi: add aml_shiftleft() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 07/25] acpi: add aml_shiftright() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 08/25] acpi: add aml_increment() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 8:08 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-09 8:16 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 09/25] acpi: add aml_while() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 8:20 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 10/25] hw/acpi: add support for multiple root busses Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 16:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-08 18:00 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 11/25] hw/apci: add _PRT method for extra PCI " Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-10 17:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-10 17:26 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-10 17:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-11 1:06 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 12/25] hw/acpi: add _CRS method for extra " Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 16:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-08 18:14 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 13/25] hw/acpi: remove from root bus 0 the crs resources used by other busses Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 16:13 ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-03-08 17:51 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 18:26 ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-03-08 18:32 ` Marcel Apfelbaum [this message]
2015-03-08 18:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-08 18:46 ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-03-09 8:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-10 13:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 14/25] hw/pci: move pci bus related code to separate files Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 15/25] hw/pci: made pci_bus_is_root a PCIBusClass method Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 16/25] hw/pci: made pci_bus_num " Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 17/25] hw/pci: introduce TYPE_PCI_MAIN_HOST_BRIDGE interface Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 18/25] hw/pci: removed 'rootbus nr is 0' assumption from qmp_pci_query Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 19/25] hw/pci: implement iteration over multiple host bridges Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 20/25] hw/pci: introduce PCI Expander Bridge (PXB) Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 21/25] hw/pci: inform bios if the system has more than one pci bridge Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 22/25] hw/pci: piix - suport multiple host bridges Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 23/25] hw/pxb: add map_irq func Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 24/25] hw/pci_bus: add support for NUMA nodes Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 25/25] hw/pxb: add numa_node parameter Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 7:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 00/25] hw/pc: implement multiple primary busses for pc machines Gerd Hoffmann
2015-03-09 9:20 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 10:18 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-03-09 10:21 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 14:19 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-03-09 16:26 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 16:55 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-03-09 19:21 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-10 6:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2015-03-10 11:03 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-10 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
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