From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <55117747.6040807@web.de> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:40:07 +0100 From: Jan Kiszka MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20150320181308.GA27775@hermes.click-hack.org> <20150321131111.GA20203@hermes.click-hack.org> <20150321132130.GC20203@hermes.click-hack.org> <550FD6CA.7080407@web.de> <20150323095340.GA5299@hermes.click-hack.org> <55101C6F.2030207@web.de> <20150323152540.GC5299@hermes.click-hack.org> In-Reply-To: <20150323152540.GC5299@hermes.click-hack.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Xenomai] ARMv8 (ARM64) port of Xenomai List-Id: Discussions about the Xenomai project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Gilles Chanteperdrix Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org On 2015-03-23 16:25, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 03:00:15PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote: >> There is a trend in industry towards virtual targets. That's because you >> can do much more (and much earlier) with emulation than with real hw, >> and handling is much easier (no wiring, no physical reset, free >> replication of setups etc.). > = > Being a trend does not mean this is a good idea. I still believe a > lot of people using JTAG or gdb tend to see symptoms rather than > real issue and misinterpret them. Yeah, real developers don't use debuggers or similar tools. Linus made a similar statement some decade ago. He was wrong with this generalization as well - one reason why we have kgdb upstream now. Debugging done right is interactive code reading and model checking. Jan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: