From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 11/18] switchdev: remove old netdev_switch_port_bridge_setlink Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 08:03:27 -0400 Message-ID: <551BDE8F.9040907@mojatatu.com> References: <1427704836-8776-1-git-send-email-sfeldma@gmail.com> <1427704836-8776-12-git-send-email-sfeldma@gmail.com> <55194E63.5010100@cumulusnetworks.com> <20150331055235.GB1994@nanopsycho.orion> <20150331215245.GA6515@nanopsycho.orion> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jiri Pirko , Netdev , roopa , Guenter Roeck , Florian Fainelli To: Scott Feldman , "Arad, Ronen" Return-path: Received: from mail-ig0-f172.google.com ([209.85.213.172]:38397 "EHLO mail-ig0-f172.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750733AbbDAMDa (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Apr 2015 08:03:30 -0400 Received: by igbqf9 with SMTP id qf9so43395748igb.1 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2015 05:03:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 03/31/15 22:38, Scott Feldman wrote: > > It sounds like vendor extensions need to be supported someway, > someday. I agree. This is one of those impendance mismatch things. There are scenarios where the feature may not be generic enough. But whatever feature it is - eventually we should get it back into mainstream. The danger of backdoors that Jiri alludes to is there. > Maybe let's table vendor extensions for the time being and > continue our focus on shared infrastructure: the things we know are > common for all vendors. We still have a lot of work just getting the > common bits working. Then we can take additional features one at a > time and see if they're shared or vendor-specific. In the meantime, > there are always back doors such as genl for vendor to use; there is > nothing preventing that. > And now i disagree. Did you read the back of your netdev tshirt? Quote: --- I also don't buy the argument that "people can put arbitrary changes into their kernel to do stuff like that". --- Vendors can do whatever they want. We just should not be aiding them to put proprietary shit. I want to stop coding around SDKs. Help me. cheers, jamal