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From: Valentine Sinitsyn <valentine.sinitsyn@gmail.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jailhouse <jailhouse-dev@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: SVM: vmload/vmsave-free VM exits?
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 22:12:05 +0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55216CE5.9000504@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5520F2C8.7090102@web.de>

Hi Jan,

On 05.04.2015 13:31, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> studying the VM exit logic of Jailhouse, I was wondering when AMD's
> vmload/vmsave can be avoided. Jailhouse as well as KVM currently use
> these instructions unconditionally. However, I think both only need
> GS.base, i.e. the per-cpu base address, to be saved and restored if no
> user space exit or no CPU migration is involved (both is always true for
> Jailhouse). Xen avoids vmload/vmsave on lightweight exits but it also
> still uses rsp-based per-cpu variables.
>
> So the question boils down to what is generally faster:
>
> A) vmload
>     vmrun
>     vmsave
>
> B) wrmsrl(MSR_GS_BASE, guest_gs_base)
>     vmrun
>     rdmsrl(MSR_GS_BASE, guest_gs_base)
>
> Of course, KVM also has to take into account that heavyweight exits
> still require vmload/vmsave, thus become more expensive with B) due to
> the additional MSR accesses.
>
> Any thoughts or results of previous experiments?
That's a good question, I also thought about it when I was finalizing 
Jailhouse AMD port. I tried "lightweight exits" with apic-demo but it 
didn't seem to affect the latency in any noticeable way. That's why I 
decided not to push the patch (in fact, I was even unable to find it now).

Note however that how AMD chips store host state during VM switches are 
implementation-specific. I did my quick experiments on one CPU only, so 
your mileage may vary.

Regarding your question, I feel B will be faster anyways but again I'm 
afraid that the gain could be within statistical error of the experiment.

Valentine

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-05 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-05  8:31 SVM: vmload/vmsave-free VM exits? Jan Kiszka
2015-04-05 17:12 ` Valentine Sinitsyn [this message]
2015-04-07  5:43   ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-07  6:10     ` Valentine Sinitsyn
2015-04-07  6:13       ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-07  6:19         ` Valentine Sinitsyn
2015-04-07  6:23           ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-07  6:29             ` Valentine Sinitsyn
2015-04-07  6:35               ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-13  7:01     ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-13 17:29       ` Avi Kivity
2015-04-13 17:35         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-13 17:41           ` Avi Kivity
2015-04-13 17:48             ` Avi Kivity
2015-04-13 17:57               ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-13 18:07                 ` Avi Kivity
2015-04-13 18:14                   ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-14  6:39             ` Valentine Sinitsyn
2015-04-14  7:02               ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-14  7:11                 ` Valentine Sinitsyn

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