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From: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arturo Borrero Gonzalez <arturo.borrero.glez@gmail.com>,
	Eric Leblond <eric@regit.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] parser: add kludges for "param-problem" and "redirect"
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 22:41:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5522EF7E.30101@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150406112543.GB24191@acer.localdomain>

Am 06.04.2015 um 13:25 schrieb Patrick McHardy:
> On 06.04, Alexander Holler wrote:
>> Am 06.04.2015 um 11:01 schrieb Alexander Holler:
>>> Am 06.04.2015 um 10:44 schrieb Alexander Holler:
>>>> Am 06.04.2015 um 03:51 schrieb Patrick McHardy:
>>>>> On 05.04, Alexander Holler wrote:
>>>>>> Am 05.04.2015 um 14:11 schrieb Patrick McHardy:
>>>>>>> On 05.04, Patrick McHardy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Basically this involves splitting the expression types into lhs
>>>>>>>> (non-const)
>>>>>>>> and rhs (const) parts. Keywords on the RHS side can be caught
>>>>>>>> using an
>>>>>>>> error statement and deferred to resolution during runtime.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like trial and error. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> The approach is, the patch isn't, it changes the grammar to have
>>>>> these kinds of errors in a defined state. The patch I sent
>>>>> however is, but I'm quite sure i understand the implications.
>>>>
>>>> Just to mention it, there is still the possibility to define and use
>>>> keywords for all the icmp type names.
>>>
>>> Preferable with names as used in icmp.h and icmpv6.h. As these are
>>> defines in C-headers, there is very high probability that these names
>>> are unique, even across a large number of different sets of type or
>>> other names.
>>
>> That would also remove the need to look up what name nft uses if would be
>> clear that the names are the same as defined in c-headers.
>>
>> E.g. the ICMPv6 parameter-problem is good example. In the linux headers it
>> is called ICMPV6_PARAMPROB, nft named it param-problem and in documentations
>> it is often named as parameter-problem.
>>
>> So if nft would use icmpv6_paramprob, the documentation could just refer to
>> the c-headers.
> 
> No, an icmpv6_ prefix is redundant and I don't see any benefit in doing
> that. "Documentations", whatever that is, don't matter, what matters is
> our documentation. And whether we point people to that or some header
> file really doesn't matter, except that we don't expect people to read
> header files to use nft. Its a tool for admins, not programmers.

Obviously it isn't redundant, otherwise I wouldn't had to write a patch
for a problem which now exists since quiet some time (can't remember
when I've first stumbled over it, maybe half a year or even a year).

Anyway, thanks for fixing it, regardless if you apply my patch or
something else.

Regards,

Alexander Holler

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-06 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-01  7:58 nft parser and problems with icmp type names (redirect and param-problem) Alexander Holler
2015-04-01 13:15 ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-03 17:50   ` [PATCH] parser: add kludges for "param-problem" and "redirect" Alexander Holler
2015-04-03 18:06     ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-04 10:50       ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-04 11:13         ` [PATCH v2] " Alexander Holler
2015-04-04 11:55           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-04 12:30             ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-05 11:42               ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-05 11:32             ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-05 12:11               ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-05 19:07                 ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-06  1:51                   ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-06  8:44                     ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-06  9:01                       ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-06  9:14                         ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-06 11:25                           ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-06 20:41                             ` Alexander Holler [this message]
2015-04-09 10:52                             ` nft parser and names for constants (was [PATCH v2] parser: add kludges for "param-problem" and "redirect") Alexander Holler
2015-04-09 11:07                               ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-09 17:50                                 ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-09 19:15                                   ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-10  5:38                                     ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-06  7:12                 ` [PATCH v2] parser: add kludges for "param-problem" and "redirect" Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2015-04-06 11:23                   ` Patrick McHardy

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