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From: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-mmc <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>, Philip Rakity <prakity@nvidia.com>,
	Al Cooper <alcooperx@gmail.com>,
	Arend van Spriel <arend@broadcom.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 01/15] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 16:13:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <552D1291.3010809@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFp8yH9CMcAbx7T-zw1qjWbdc6kx4KErykcnCH=46dsAyw@mail.gmail.com>

On 13/04/15 15:30, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> On 2 April 2015 at 18:18, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com> wrote:
>> On 2/04/2015 4:05 p.m., Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>    - ability to enable / disable re-tuning
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Handled internally by the mmc core.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The host controller driver enables re-tuning based on whether the host
>>>> controller requires it for that transfer mode. For example, only the
>>>> SDHCI
>>>> host controller knows if tuning is required for SDR50 mode according to
>>>> the
>>>> SDHCI capability register bit 45.
>>>
>>>
>>> That seems a bit silly.
>>>
>>> All hosts wants the re-tuning to be "enabled" if the current used
>>> speed mode requires it. It's not a host driver thing to deal with,
>>> just the core.
>>
>>
>> No it is up to the host controller. That is how it is in the
>> SD Host Controller Specification. Both whether to tune SDR50 and
>> whether to run a re-tuning timer.
>>
>> Tuning is inherently a host controller problem. The card can always
>> receive correctly from the host, but the host has to adjust its
>> "sampling point" to receive from the card. Only the host knows its
>> capabilities in this regard.
> 
> The requirement of doing re-tuning is stated in the eMMC/SD specs. The
> SDHCI spec is just adopting to what these specs already states. Then,
> I think the mmc core is the only one, who shall be able of
> enable/disable re-tuning and thus we shouldn't need any APIs for that.
> 
> Hosts needs to be able to flag that re-tuning is needed and to
> configure the re-tuning timeout (optional).

OK sent patch set V5



  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-14 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-27 20:57 [PATCH V4 00/15] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 01/15] " Adrian Hunter
2015-04-01  9:50   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-01 11:47     ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-01 15:10       ` Arend van Spriel
2015-04-02  8:43         ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-02 10:30           ` Arend van Spriel
2015-04-02 12:10             ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-02 12:18               ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-02 12:25                 ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-02 12:27                   ` Arend van Spriel
2015-04-02 12:43                     ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-02 14:00                       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-03  2:59                         ` NeilBrown
2015-04-08  7:42                         ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-13 12:07                           ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-14 13:38                             ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-14 16:52                               ` Arend van Spriel
2015-04-16  7:24                               ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-16  8:59                                 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-16 11:28                                   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-02 13:05       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-02 16:18         ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-13 12:30           ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-14 13:13             ` Adrian Hunter [this message]
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 02/15] mmc: core: Disable re-tuning when card is no longer initialized Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 03/15] mmc: core: Add support for re-tuning before each request Adrian Hunter
2015-04-01 10:13   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-04-01 12:08     ` Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 04/15] mmc: core: Check re-tuning before retrying Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 05/15] mmc: core: Hold re-tuning during switch commands Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 06/15] mmc: core: Hold re-tuning during erase commands Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 07/15] mmc: core: Hold re-tuning while bkops ongoing Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 08/15] mmc: mmc: Comment that callers need to hold re-tuning if the card is put to sleep Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 09/15] mmc: core: Separate out the mmc_switch status check so it can be re-used Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 10/15] mmc: core: Add support for HS400 re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 11/15] mmc: sdhci: Change to new way of doing re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 12/15] mmc: sdhci: Flag re-tuning is needed on CRC or End-Bit errors Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 13/15] mmc: block: Check re-tuning in the recovery path Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 14/15] mmc: block: Retry errored data requests when re-tuning is needed Adrian Hunter
2015-03-27 20:57 ` [PATCH V4 15/15] mmc: core: Don't print reset warning if reset is not supported Adrian Hunter
2015-04-01  6:21 ` [PATCH V4 00/15] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning Adrian Hunter
2015-04-10 10:39   ` Adrian Hunter
2015-04-10 10:52     ` Ulf Hansson

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