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From: "Michael Kerrisk" <michael.kerrisk@gmx.net>
To: "William A.(Andy) Adamson" <andros@citi.umich.edu>
Cc: matthew@wil.cx, andros@citi.umich.edu, sfr@canb.auug.org.au,
	mtk-lkml@gmx.net, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	andros@citi.umich.edu
Subject: Re: fcntl: F_SETLEASE/F_RDLCK question
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:50:13 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5531.1115131813@www41.gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20050503141552.F42371BAD1@citi.umich.edu

> > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 09:55:42AM -0400, William A.(Andy) Adamson
> > wrote:
> > > i believe the current implementation is correct. opening a file for
> > > write 
> > > means that you can not have a read lease, caller included.
> > 
> > Why not?  Certainly, others will not be able to take out a read lease,
> > so there's very little point to only having a read lease, but I don't
> > see why we should deny it.
> > 
> 
> by definition: a read lease means there are no writers. so, the question
> is 
> not 'why not', the question is why? why hand out a read lease to an open
> for write?

Andy,

Look more closely at my earlier table. 

Regardless of what the answer to your question is, the 
current semantics are bizarre.  As things stand, a process
can open a file O_RDWR, and and can place a WRITE lease 
but not a READ lease.  That can't be right.

FWIW it's worth, I think the read lease should be allowed.
Oplocks are concerned with what other processes are doing, 
not what the caller is doing.  Also, the current semantcis
break backward compatibility.

Cheers,

Michael

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-03 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-02  9:15 fcntl: F_SETLEASE/F_RDLCK question Heiko Carstens
2005-05-02 11:04 ` Stephen Rothwell
2005-05-02 12:10   ` Heiko Carstens
2005-05-03 10:00   ` Michael Kerrisk
2005-05-03 13:14     ` Stephen Rothwell
2005-05-03 13:55       ` William A.(Andy) Adamson
2005-05-03 13:59         ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-05-03 14:15           ` William A.(Andy) Adamson
2005-05-03 14:50             ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]
2005-05-03 16:21               ` William A.(Andy) Adamson
2005-05-03 16:36                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-05-31 14:53       ` Michael Kerrisk
2005-05-31 15:23         ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-05-31 15:41           ` Michael Kerrisk
2005-05-31 15:34       ` File leases and fork() Michael Kerrisk

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