[PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Julien Grall]

His email address is bouncing from more than a month.

Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>
Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>

---

I've heard he left Huawei.
---
 MAINTAINERS | 1 -
 1 file changed, 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index c714bc1..0402eb6 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -139,7 +139,6 @@ F:	xen/drivers/char/pl011.c
 F:	xen/drivers/passthrough/arm/
 
 HISILICON HIP04 SUPPORT
-M:	Frediano Ziglio <frediano.ziglio@huawei.com>
 M:	Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
 S:	Supported
 F:	xen/arch/arm/gic-hip04.c
-- 
2.1.4

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Zoltan Kiss]

On 06/05/15 19:56, Julien Grall wrote:
> His email address is bouncing from more than a month.
>
> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>
> Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
> Cc: Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
> Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
> Cc: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
>
> ---
>
> I've heard he left Huawei.

Yes, he left indeed.


> ---
>   MAINTAINERS | 1 -
>   1 file changed, 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index c714bc1..0402eb6 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -139,7 +139,6 @@ F:	xen/drivers/char/pl011.c
>   F:	xen/drivers/passthrough/arm/
>
>   HISILICON HIP04 SUPPORT
> -M:	Frediano Ziglio <frediano.ziglio@huawei.com>
>   M:	Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
>   S:	Supported
>   F:	xen/arch/arm/gic-hip04.c
>

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Olaf Hering]

On Thu, May 07, Zoltan Kiss wrote:

> Yes, he left indeed.

> >  M:	Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>


What about you? ;-)

Olaf

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Zoltan Kiss]

I'm still working there, but as a Linaro assignee for LNG. Julian's last 
mail fell through unfortunately, sorry about that.

Zoli

On 07/05/15 09:25, Olaf Hering wrote:
> On Thu, May 07, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>
>> Yes, he left indeed.
>
>>>   M:	Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
>
>
> What about you? ;-)
>
> Olaf
>

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Julien Grall]

Hi Zoltan,

On 07/05/2015 09:21, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>
>
> On 06/05/15 19:56, Julien Grall wrote:
>> His email address is bouncing from more than a month.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>
>> Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
>> Cc: Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
>> Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>> Cc: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> I've heard he left Huawei.
>
> Yes, he left indeed.

Can I take this as an ack?

Regards,

-- 
Julien Grall

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Zoltan Kiss]

On 07/05/15 10:52, Julien Grall wrote:
> Hi Zoltan,
>
> On 07/05/2015 09:21, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 06/05/15 19:56, Julien Grall wrote:
>>> His email address is bouncing from more than a month.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>
>>> Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
>>> Cc: Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
>>> Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>>> Cc: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> I've heard he left Huawei.
>>
>> Yes, he left indeed.
>
> Can I take this as an ack?
Yes.

Acked-by: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
>
> Regards,
>

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Jan Beulich]

>>> On 07.05.15 at 12:11, <zoltan.kiss@linaro.org> wrote:
> On 07/05/15 10:52, Julien Grall wrote:
>> On 07/05/2015 09:21, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>>> On 06/05/15 19:56, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>> His email address is bouncing from more than a month.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>
>>>> Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
>>>> Cc: Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
>>>> Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>>>> Cc: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> I've heard he left Huawei.
>>>
>>> Yes, he left indeed.
>>
>> Can I take this as an ack?
> Yes.
> 
> Acked-by: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>

Now the question of course is - is that really what we want to do?
I.e. is it known that he no longer wants to be a maintainer of this
code (or cannot be)? The mail address having become stale
doesn't necessarily mean that. Does one of you know where he
went? Should we - in the absence of a valid mail address - keep
his name here without mail address (I admit this is of limited use)?

Jan

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Julien Grall]

Hi Jan,

On 07/05/15 15:14, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 07.05.15 at 12:11, <zoltan.kiss@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On 07/05/15 10:52, Julien Grall wrote:
>>> On 07/05/2015 09:21, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>>>> On 06/05/15 19:56, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>>> His email address is bouncing from more than a month.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>
>>>>> Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
>>>>> Cc: Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
>>>>> Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>>>>> Cc: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> I've heard he left Huawei.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, he left indeed.
>>>
>>> Can I take this as an ack?
>> Yes.
>>
>> Acked-by: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
> 
> Now the question of course is - is that really what we want to do?
> I.e. is it known that he no longer wants to be a maintainer of this
> code (or cannot be)? The mail address having become stale
> doesn't necessarily mean that. Does one of you know where he
> went? Should we - in the absence of a valid mail address - keep
> his name here without mail address (I admit this is of limited use)?

This code is a driver specific for the Hisilicon board (i.e Huawei).
Having people directly from Huawei is useful for testing any changes in
common interrupt controller code which may impact their board.

As said on another thread [1], we'd like responsive maintainers on this
driver. For now, after a month it's already out-of-date (building but
suspect not booting) and more changes is planned in the common interface.

Zoltan told us he missed the mails by mistake [2], although Frediano as
left Huawei. Unless he has access to this board, there is not much
interest for us to keep him maintainer to this driver.

Regards,

[1]
http://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2015-05/msg00588.html

-- 
Julien Grall

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Jan Beulich]

>>> On 07.05.15 at 16:31, <julien.grall@citrix.com> wrote:
> On 07/05/15 15:14, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> Now the question of course is - is that really what we want to do?
>> I.e. is it known that he no longer wants to be a maintainer of this
>> code (or cannot be)? The mail address having become stale
>> doesn't necessarily mean that. Does one of you know where he
>> went? Should we - in the absence of a valid mail address - keep
>> his name here without mail address (I admit this is of limited use)?
> 
> This code is a driver specific for the Hisilicon board (i.e Huawei).
> Having people directly from Huawei is useful for testing any changes in
> common interrupt controller code which may impact their board.
> 
> As said on another thread [1], we'd like responsive maintainers on this
> driver. For now, after a month it's already out-of-date (building but
> suspect not booting) and more changes is planned in the common interface.

Understood. The only reason I responded was really that it didn't
look like the removal was done with Frediano's consent, and it
didn't sound like he was unresponsive for like half a year or longer...

> Zoltan told us he missed the mails by mistake [2], although Frediano as
> left Huawei. Unless he has access to this board, there is not much
> interest for us to keep him maintainer to this driver.

So I guess I'll leave it to the ARM maintainers then to decide...

Jan

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[George Dunlap]

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>>>> On 07.05.15 at 16:31, <julien.grall@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 07/05/15 15:14, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> Now the question of course is - is that really what we want to do?
>>> I.e. is it known that he no longer wants to be a maintainer of this
>>> code (or cannot be)? The mail address having become stale
>>> doesn't necessarily mean that. Does one of you know where he
>>> went? Should we - in the absence of a valid mail address - keep
>>> his name here without mail address (I admit this is of limited use)?
>>
>> This code is a driver specific for the Hisilicon board (i.e Huawei).
>> Having people directly from Huawei is useful for testing any changes in
>> common interrupt controller code which may impact their board.
>>
>> As said on another thread [1], we'd like responsive maintainers on this
>> driver. For now, after a month it's already out-of-date (building but
>> suspect not booting) and more changes is planned in the common interface.
>
> Understood. The only reason I responded was really that it didn't
> look like the removal was done with Frediano's consent, and it
> didn't sound like he was unresponsive for like half a year or longer...

Interesting policy question -- in theory we could hit a situation
where someone switches jobs but actually does want to remain
maintainer of a subsystem, but forgets to update his e-mail address
for a month.

But of course in this case it's quite likely that having left the
company, he doesn't have the ability, much less the interest, to be
the maintainer anymore (having access to neither hardware nor internal
specs).

In this case some of us are still in contact with Frediano personally;
I'll forward this thread to his personal address so he can respond if
he wants.  But it's still a bit of a gray area in the general case.

 -George

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Julien Grall]

On 18/05/15 12:41, George Dunlap wrote:
> In this case some of us are still in contact with Frediano personally;
> I'll forward this thread to his personal address so he can respond if
> he wants.  But it's still a bit of a gray area in the general case.

Zoltan already CCed him 2 weeks ago. So far I didn't see any answer from
him.

I pinged him last friday.

Regards,

-- 
Julien Grall

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Zoltan Kiss]

On 07/05/15 15:14, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 07.05.15 at 12:11, <zoltan.kiss@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On 07/05/15 10:52, Julien Grall wrote:
>>> On 07/05/2015 09:21, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>>>> On 06/05/15 19:56, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>>> His email address is bouncing from more than a month.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>
>>>>> Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
>>>>> Cc: Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
>>>>> Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>>>>> Cc: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> I've heard he left Huawei.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, he left indeed.
>>>
>>> Can I take this as an ack?
>> Yes.
>>
>> Acked-by: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@huawei.com>
>
> Now the question of course is - is that really what we want to do?
> I.e. is it known that he no longer wants to be a maintainer of this
> code (or cannot be)? The mail address having become stale
> doesn't necessarily mean that. Does one of you know where he
> went? Should we - in the absence of a valid mail address - keep
> his name here without mail address (I admit this is of limited use)?

He left to an another company, to work on quite different things I 
guess, and without a board it would be quite hard for him to do this 
job. But I've added his private email address, so he can speak out for 
himself.
>
> Jan
>

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Julien Grall]

Hi,

On 07/05/2015 15:39, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>> Now the question of course is - is that really what we want to do?
>> I.e. is it known that he no longer wants to be a maintainer of this
>> code (or cannot be)? The mail address having become stale
>> doesn't necessarily mean that. Does one of you know where he
>> went? Should we - in the absence of a valid mail address - keep
>> his name here without mail address (I admit this is of limited use)?
>
> He left to an another company, to work on quite different things I
> guess, and without a board it would be quite hard for him to do this
> job. But I've added his private email address, so he can speak out for
> himself.

Ping?

Regards,

-- 
Julien Grall

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Ian Campbell]

On Fri, 2015-05-15 at 22:09 +0100, Julien Grall wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 07/05/2015 15:39, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
> >> Now the question of course is - is that really what we want to do?
> >> I.e. is it known that he no longer wants to be a maintainer of this
> >> code (or cannot be)? The mail address having become stale
> >> doesn't necessarily mean that. Does one of you know where he
> >> went? Should we - in the absence of a valid mail address - keep
> >> his name here without mail address (I admit this is of limited use)?
> >
> > He left to an another company, to work on quite different things I
> > guess, and without a board it would be quite hard for him to do this
> > job. But I've added his private email address, so he can speak out for
> > himself.
> 
> Ping?

Unless someone objects I'm going to pick this up next time I do a pass
over my queue committing things, which will likely be either later today
or tomorrow.

Ian.

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Frediano Ziglio from "HISILICON HIP04 Support"

[Ian Campbell]

On Mon, 2015-05-18 at 10:37 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> Unless someone objects I'm going to pick this up next time I do a pass
> over my queue committing things, which will likely be either later today
> or tomorrow.

Done.

> Ian.
> 
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