From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH v2 0/3] block: Warn about usage of growing formats over non-growable protocols
Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 12:16:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <554C8D1B.8030307@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150508100832.GC4318@noname.redhat.com>
On 08/05/2015 12:08, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Actually, considering all the information in this thread, I'm inclined
> that we should change both sides. qemu-nbd because ENOSPC might be what
> clients expect by analogy with Linux block devices, even if the
> behaviour for accesses beyond the device size isn't specified in the NBD
> protocol and the server might just do anything. As long as the behaviour
> is undefined, it's nice to do what most people may expect.
>
> And as the real fix change the nbd client, because even if new qemu-nbd
> versions will be nice, we shouldn't rely on undefined behaviour. We know
> that old qemu-nbd servers won't produce ENOSPC and I'm not sure what
> other NBD servers do.
Sounds like a plan.
> Thanks, that will be helpful in the future.
>
> Is this the right place to look up the spec?
> http://sourceforge.net/p/nbd/code/ci/master/tree/doc/proto.txt
Yes.
> If so, the commands seem to be hopelessly underspecified, especially
> with respect to error conditions. And where it says something about
> errors, it doesn't make sense: The server is forbidden to reply to a
> NBD_CMD_FLUSH if it failed... (qemu-nbd ignores this, obviously)
So does nbd-server. O:-) Looks like you're reading the spec too
literally (which is never a bad thing).
>> Ok, so it shouldn't reach blk_check_request at all. But then, we should
>> aim at making blk_check_request's checks assertions.
>
> Sounds fair as a goal, but I don't think all devices have such checks
> yet. We've fixed the most common devices (IDE, scsi-disk and virtio-blk)
> just a while ago.
Indeed ("aim at").
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-08 10:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-19 19:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] block: Warn about usage of growing formats over non-growable protocols Max Reitz
2015-03-19 19:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/3] iotests: Make nested read in 072 and 089 read-only Max Reitz
2015-03-19 19:23 ` Eric Blake
2015-03-19 19:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/3] block: Introduce BDS.growing Max Reitz
2015-03-19 20:11 ` Eric Blake
2015-03-19 19:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/3] block: Introduce BlockDriver.requires_growing_file Max Reitz
2015-03-19 20:18 ` Eric Blake
2015-05-05 9:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] block: Warn about usage of growing formats over non-growable protocols Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-05-06 13:04 ` Max Reitz
2015-05-06 15:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-06 16:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Max Reitz
2015-05-06 16:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-06 16:37 ` Max Reitz
2015-05-06 16:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-06 17:23 ` Max Reitz
2015-05-07 12:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-07 12:29 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-07 12:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-07 13:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-07 13:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-07 14:07 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-07 14:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-07 14:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-07 14:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-08 10:08 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 10:16 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-05-08 10:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 11:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-08 12:58 ` Max Reitz
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