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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, kraxel@redhat.com
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mst@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/31] ich9: implement SMI_LOCK
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 17:36:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5550CC6D.7080903@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5550C8FE.8080804@redhat.com>

On 05/11/15 17:21, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/05/2015 17:17, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> If I understand correctly, this makes SMI_LOCK lock down the GBL_SMI_EN
>> bit (and my OVMF patch that relies on that / tests it is satisfied too).
>>
>> But, it doesn't seem to lock down APMC_EN. According to the ICH9 spec,
>> it doesn't need to -- however when we discussed this earlier (see
>> Message-Id: <553F4D23.3060305@redhat.com>), the idea was to lock down
>> APMC_EN as well. (And I don't understand why the ICH9 spec / hw
>> implementation doesn't lock APMC_EN; without that, APM_CNT won't
>> necessarily trigger an SMI.)
> 
> I don't think it should.  See here
> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2015-04/msg02758.html>
> where I wrote explicitly "Even if the OS tries to maliciously set
> APMC_EN to 0 (SMI_LOCK doesn't lock APMC_EN)...".

It's not about feature detection -- the question (from
<553F4D23.3060305@redhat.com>) is whether I should set APMC_EN myself
*every time* before writing to APM_CNT, in the
EFI_SMM_CONTROL2_PROTOCOL.Trigger() method. That protocol is provided by
a runtime DXE driver and would be exercised by eg. the non-privileged
half of the runtime variable service driver.

It's no problem to set it, I have the code ready, I was just wondering
if I should keep that hunk. (In fact it might not even matter: if the OS
interferes and clears APMC_EN before the non-privileged half mentioned
above manages to raise the SMI, then the call / transition to SMM will
simply not happen, which is bad for the OS, and probably irrelevant for
the firmware (... the security thereof).)

I guess I'll keep re-setting APMC_EN in the Trigger() method; it won't hurt.

Thanks
Laszlo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-11 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-11 13:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/31] target-i386: SMM improvements and partial support under KVM Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/31] pc: add 2.4 machine types Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/31] target-i386: introduce cpu_get_mem_attrs Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/31] target-i386: Use correct memory attributes for memory accesses Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/31] target-i386: Use correct memory attributes for ioport accesses Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/31] target-i386: mask NMIs on entry to SMM Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/31] target-i386: set G=1 in SMM big real mode selectors Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/31] pflash_cfi01: change big-endian property to BIT type Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/31] pflash_cfi01: change to new-style MMIO accessors Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/31] pflash_cfi01: add secure property Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/31] vl: allow full-blown QemuOpts syntax for -global Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-19 11:49   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-19 14:34     ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-19 16:30   ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-19 16:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-08 18:04       ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/31] qom: add object_property_add_const_link Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 14:40   ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-05-19 11:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-19 19:14   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-20 14:36     ` Andreas Färber
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/31] vl: run "late" notifiers immediately Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/31] target-i386: create a separate AddressSpace for each CPU Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/31] hw/i386: add a separate region that tracks the SMRAME bit Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/31] target-i386: use memory API to implement SMRAM Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-31 18:09   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01  7:30     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-01  8:10       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01  8:58         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-01 10:38           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/31] hw/i386: remove smram_update Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/31] q35: implement high SMRAM Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/31] q35: fix ESMRAMC default Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-12  6:52   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/31] q35: add config space wmask for SMRAM and ESMRAMC Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-12  6:55   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/31] q35: add test for SMRAM.D_LCK Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/31] q35: implement TSEG Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/31] ich9: implement SMI_LOCK Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 15:17   ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-05-11 15:21     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 15:36       ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2015-05-11 15:45         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-12  7:07   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/31] hw/acpi: acpi_pm1_cnt_init(): take "disable_s3" and "disable_s4" Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/31] hw/acpi: move "etc/system-states" fw_cfg file from PIIX4 to core Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 26/31] hw/acpi: piix4_pm_init(): take fw_cfg object no more Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 27/31] target-i386: add support for SMBASE MSR and SMIs Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 28/31] vga: disable chain4_alias if KVM supports SMRAM Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-19 11:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 29/31] pc_piix: rename kvm_enabled to smm_enabled Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 30/31] ich9: add smm_enabled field and arguments Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-11 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 31/31] pc: add SMM property Paolo Bonzini
     [not found] ` <1431352157-40283-21-git-send-email-pbonzini@redhat.com>
2015-05-12  6:59   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/31] q35: implement SMRAM.D_LCK Gerd Hoffmann
2015-05-31 18:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/31] target-i386: SMM improvements and partial support under KVM Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01  7:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-01  7:51     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01  8:56       ` Paolo Bonzini

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