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From: Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>,
	ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com, wei.liu2@citrix.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libxl: assigned a default ssid_label (XSM label) to guests
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 18:37:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <555A69AC.6080603@tycho.nsa.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1431952728.4944.51.camel@citrix.com>

On 05/18/2015 08:38 AM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-05-15 at 10:39 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>> The header file defining these SIDs is buried in the hypervisor source
>>> tree (xen/xsm/flask/include/flask.h) and is only generated during a build
>>> with XSM enabled.  It may be simpler to define the value in a shared header
>>> and add a BUILD_BUG_ON somewhere in the flask code to check for mismatches.
>>
>> I was about to ask about this. Short of a pretty serious change to the
>> build a BUILD_BUG_ON seems like a reasonable approach.
>
> To what extent is a user's customized (e.g. potentially clean room
> implemented) policy required to match what goes on here? I suspect the
> answer is "fully" and that any custom policy must therefore use exactly
> the policy/security_classes and policy/initial_sids as was used when Xen
> was built.

When rewriting the security policy, xen/xsm/flask/policy/initial_sids is
expected to remain unchanged, while tools/flask/policy/policy/initial_sids
can be modified to suit the types defined in the rewritten policy.  This
applies to all the files split between the two directories.

> If this coupling already exists then I see no particular harm in
> extending it to the tools as well, although I think I might see about
> making the header available for checking even in non-xsm builds (since I
> don't really want to add an xsm compile time option to the tools, nor to
> rely on the xsm builds catching errors for non-xsm usage).
>
> BTW, I seem to have two of each of security_classes and initial_sids in
> my tree, one in tools/flask/policy/policy/ and the other in
> xen/xsm/flask/policy/ and they appear to differ.
>
> The xen initial_sids appears to be derived from the tools one, whereas
> security_classes looks different.

The security_classes and access_vectors in the local policy (tools/...)
are intended to be used by components outside the hypervisor that do not
implement their own security policy.  The current example policy defines
a class for xenstore permissions, but since xenstore does not actually
use this, it is just an example.

-- 
Daniel De Graaf
National Security Agency

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-18 22:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-14 10:33 [PATCH] libxl: assigned a default ssid_label (XSM label) to guests Ian Campbell
2015-05-14 11:21 ` Julien Grall
2015-05-14 11:54   ` Ian Campbell
2015-05-14 14:18     ` Julien Grall
2015-05-14 23:09     ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-05-15  9:39       ` Ian Campbell
2015-05-15 17:09         ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-05-18 10:56           ` Ian Campbell
2015-05-18 12:38         ` Ian Campbell
2015-05-18 22:37           ` Daniel De Graaf [this message]
2015-05-19 10:43             ` Ian Campbell
2015-05-14 11:58 ` Wei Liu
2015-05-14 12:32   ` Ian Campbell
2015-05-14 12:39     ` Wei Liu
2015-05-14 14:05       ` Julien Grall
2015-05-14 14:11         ` Ian Campbell

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