From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@redhat.com>
To: intel-wired-lan@osuosl.org
Subject: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH] pci: Use a bus-global mutex to protect VPD operations
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 17:07:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <555BD029.7050803@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150519160158.00002cd6@unknown>
On 05/19/2015 04:01 PM, Jesse Brandeburg wrote:
> On Tue, 19 May 2015 10:55:03 -0700
> Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 05/18/2015 05:00 PM, Mark D Rustad wrote:
>>> Some devices have a problem with concurrent VPD access to different
>>> functions of the same physical device, so move the protecting mutex
>>> from the pci_vpd structure to the pci_bus structure. There are a
>>> number of reports on support sites for a variety of devices from
>>> various vendors getting the "vpd r/w failed" message. This is likely
>>> to at least fix some of them. Thanks to Shannon Nelson for helping
>>> to come up with this approach.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Mark Rustad <mark.d.rustad@intel.com>
>>> Acked-by: Shannon Nelson <shannon.nelson@intel.com>
>>> Acked-by: Jeff Kirsher <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>
>> Instead of moving the mutex lock around you would be much better served
>> by simply removing the duplicate VPD entries for a given device in a
>> PCIe quirk. Then you can save yourself the extra pain and effort of
>> having to deal with serialized VPD accesses for a multifunction device.
>>
>> The logic for the quirk should be fairly simple.
>> 1. Scan for any other devices with VPD that share the same bus and
>> device number.
>> 2. If bdf is equal to us keep searching.
>> 3. If bdf is less than our bdf we release our VPD area and set VPD
>> pointer to NULL.
> But Alex if you do this you're violating the principle of least
> surprise, not to mention changing a user-space interface which should
> not be done.
I'm willing to back off on dropping the VPD info for those functions
entirely, but the lock should not be pushed to the bus.
> Mark's solution is pretty graceful and solves the issue at heart, which
> is that
> 1) several Intel chips have this issue
> 2) it appears that several other vendor's chips have this issue (or
> similar) as well, but even if they don't Mark's fix will not change
> their general operation, only make a small serializing effect when
> multiple simultaneous reads are made.
2 is based on a false premise. The "vpd r/w failed" error is about as
common as dev_watchdog(). Just because it presents with a similar
symptom doesn't mean it is the same issue.
> This is a reasonably small fix, with a small kernel footprint, which
> does not require changing user expectations or violating user-space
> semantics that are already established, so I support it as is.
I am not against the shared lock approach, but the bus is the wrong
place for this. Sharing a bus does not mean that the devices are all a
part of the same chip, it only means they share a bus. I would guess
that this fix has not been tested with any LOM parts such as e1000e, or
in a virtualization environment, as this would exhibit different
behavior with this patch. For example does it make sense for an e1000e
LOM to be joined at the hip with a SATA or USB controller. They could
all be from different manufacturers with different requirements.
If the bug is in Intel Ethernet with VPD then I would suggest tweaking
the VPD logic and adding a Intel Ethernet PCI quirk. It doesn't make
sense to assume based on one common error message that all of creation
has the same issue.
If anything I believe Mark's patches have revealed a bigger issue. That
is the fact that the sysfs file is reading outside of the VPD area which
the PCI spec doesn't have a defined behavior for. I suspect this is the
cause of a number of the issues being reported as Broadcom had to
specifically quirk to prevent it, and I found one discussion that
indicated something similar might be needed for Realtek.
- Alex
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From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@redhat.com>
To: Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>
Cc: Mark D Rustad <mark.d.rustad@intel.com>,
bhelgaas@google.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH] pci: Use a bus-global mutex to protect VPD operations
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 17:07:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <555BD029.7050803@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150519160158.00002cd6@unknown>
On 05/19/2015 04:01 PM, Jesse Brandeburg wrote:
> On Tue, 19 May 2015 10:55:03 -0700
> Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 05/18/2015 05:00 PM, Mark D Rustad wrote:
>>> Some devices have a problem with concurrent VPD access to different
>>> functions of the same physical device, so move the protecting mutex
>>> from the pci_vpd structure to the pci_bus structure. There are a
>>> number of reports on support sites for a variety of devices from
>>> various vendors getting the "vpd r/w failed" message. This is likely
>>> to at least fix some of them. Thanks to Shannon Nelson for helping
>>> to come up with this approach.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Mark Rustad <mark.d.rustad@intel.com>
>>> Acked-by: Shannon Nelson <shannon.nelson@intel.com>
>>> Acked-by: Jeff Kirsher <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>
>> Instead of moving the mutex lock around you would be much better served
>> by simply removing the duplicate VPD entries for a given device in a
>> PCIe quirk. Then you can save yourself the extra pain and effort of
>> having to deal with serialized VPD accesses for a multifunction device.
>>
>> The logic for the quirk should be fairly simple.
>> 1. Scan for any other devices with VPD that share the same bus and
>> device number.
>> 2. If bdf is equal to us keep searching.
>> 3. If bdf is less than our bdf we release our VPD area and set VPD
>> pointer to NULL.
> But Alex if you do this you're violating the principle of least
> surprise, not to mention changing a user-space interface which should
> not be done.
I'm willing to back off on dropping the VPD info for those functions
entirely, but the lock should not be pushed to the bus.
> Mark's solution is pretty graceful and solves the issue at heart, which
> is that
> 1) several Intel chips have this issue
> 2) it appears that several other vendor's chips have this issue (or
> similar) as well, but even if they don't Mark's fix will not change
> their general operation, only make a small serializing effect when
> multiple simultaneous reads are made.
2 is based on a false premise. The "vpd r/w failed" error is about as
common as dev_watchdog(). Just because it presents with a similar
symptom doesn't mean it is the same issue.
> This is a reasonably small fix, with a small kernel footprint, which
> does not require changing user expectations or violating user-space
> semantics that are already established, so I support it as is.
I am not against the shared lock approach, but the bus is the wrong
place for this. Sharing a bus does not mean that the devices are all a
part of the same chip, it only means they share a bus. I would guess
that this fix has not been tested with any LOM parts such as e1000e, or
in a virtualization environment, as this would exhibit different
behavior with this patch. For example does it make sense for an e1000e
LOM to be joined at the hip with a SATA or USB controller. They could
all be from different manufacturers with different requirements.
If the bug is in Intel Ethernet with VPD then I would suggest tweaking
the VPD logic and adding a Intel Ethernet PCI quirk. It doesn't make
sense to assume based on one common error message that all of creation
has the same issue.
If anything I believe Mark's patches have revealed a bigger issue. That
is the fact that the sysfs file is reading outside of the VPD area which
the PCI spec doesn't have a defined behavior for. I suspect this is the
cause of a number of the issues being reported as Broadcom had to
specifically quirk to prevent it, and I found one discussion that
indicated something similar might be needed for Realtek.
- Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-20 0:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-19 0:00 [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH] pci: Use a bus-global mutex to protect VPD operations Mark D Rustad
2015-05-19 0:00 ` Mark D Rustad
2015-05-19 17:55 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2015-05-19 17:55 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-05-19 18:28 ` Rustad, Mark D
2015-05-19 18:28 ` Rustad, Mark D
2015-05-19 20:58 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-05-19 20:58 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-05-19 21:53 ` Rustad, Mark D
2015-05-19 21:53 ` Rustad, Mark D
2015-05-19 23:19 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-05-19 23:19 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-05-19 23:01 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2015-05-19 23:01 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2015-05-20 0:07 ` Alexander Duyck [this message]
2015-05-20 0:07 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-05-20 0:34 ` Rustad, Mark D
2015-05-20 0:34 ` Rustad, Mark D
2015-05-20 1:02 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-05-20 1:02 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-05-20 16:00 ` Rustad, Mark D
2015-05-20 16:00 ` Rustad, Mark D
2015-05-20 21:26 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-05-20 21:26 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-05-27 17:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-05-27 17:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-05-27 19:11 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Rustad, Mark D
2015-05-27 19:11 ` Rustad, Mark D
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-05-16 0:14 [Intel-wired-lan] " Mark D Rustad
2015-05-18 23:31 ` Nelson, Shannon
2015-05-18 23:45 ` Jeff Kirsher
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