From: Joshua Brindle <brindle@quarksecurity.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
"selinux@tycho.nsa.gov" <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] selinux: add targeted whitelisting of ioctl commands.
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 09:35:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <555DDF2C.3010606@quarksecurity.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhQDg6S9UObCqCLQgg=V6_5Lj7BSQ-LYfRLGGLMZOoaoGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Paul Moore wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Jeffrey Vander Stoep<jeffv@google.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. Agreed that raw numerical
>> values are confusing. I will fix up the commit message to set a better
>> precedent for intended use. I included them more to illustrate what is
>> happening under the hood. I like the idea of a qualifier for clarity.
>> The qualifier seems necessary for the suggested non-ioctl-specific
>> approach.
>
> Great, thank you.
>
>> Individual ioctl labels are only marginally better than raw numbers.
>> E.g. { TCSETSF TIOCGWINSZ TCGETA TCSETA TCSETAW TCSETAF TCSBRK TCXONC
>> TIOCMBIS }. More helpful...but not much.
>>
>> My plan was to group commonly used ioctl sets into macros.
>>
>> e.g. common_socket_ioc, priv_socket_ioc, tty_ioc, gpu_ioc, etc
>>
>> After monitoring ioctl use across five different devices I think this
>> is a good approach as just 10-20 macros would be adequate for a
>> targeted policy and would provide a clearer explanation of the
>> permissions given.
>
> Agreed. We can use m4 to provide both the ioctl names and sets if needed.
m4 is never the answer....
An attribute-like symbol that is maintained in the binary would make
these visible in the loaded policy and therefore more
understandable/analyzable.
It would also allow you to easily add them in specific devices in a more
readable way. For example, if the Android base policy allowed gpu_ioc to
surfaceflinger all a device specific variant would need to do is add its
ioctls to the attribute.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-21 13:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-09 21:48 [PATCH 0/2] selinux: add targeted whitelisting of ioctl commands Jeff Vander Stoep
2015-04-09 23:03 ` Jeffrey Vander Stoep
2015-04-22 22:18 ` Jeffrey Vander Stoep
2015-04-23 22:28 ` Paul Moore
2015-04-24 15:02 ` Jeffrey Vander Stoep
2015-05-20 20:04 ` Paul Moore
2015-05-20 21:56 ` Jeffrey Vander Stoep
2015-05-21 0:39 ` William Roberts
2015-05-21 2:08 ` Joshua Brindle
2015-05-21 4:17 ` Jeffrey Vander Stoep
2015-05-21 11:21 ` Paul Moore
2015-05-21 13:35 ` Joshua Brindle [this message]
2015-05-21 14:10 ` Paul Moore
2015-05-21 14:16 ` Joshua Brindle
2015-05-21 14:19 ` Paul Moore
2015-05-21 14:23 ` Joshua Brindle
2015-05-21 14:37 ` Paul Moore
2015-05-21 14:41 ` Joshua Brindle
2015-05-21 14:44 ` William Roberts
2015-05-21 14:53 ` Joshua Brindle
2015-05-21 14:56 ` William Roberts
2015-05-21 14:57 ` Joshua Brindle
2015-05-21 15:09 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-05-21 15:27 ` Joshua Brindle
2015-05-21 18:05 ` Jeffrey Vander Stoep
2015-05-22 18:12 ` Paul Moore
2015-05-21 12:37 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-05-21 12:34 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-05-21 13:43 ` James Carter
2015-05-21 13:50 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-05-21 13:54 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-05-21 14:04 ` Paul Moore
2015-05-21 14:10 ` James Carter
2015-05-21 14:11 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-05-21 14:13 ` Paul Moore
2015-05-21 14:14 ` Joshua Brindle
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