From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: weigelt@melag.de (Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 14:31:02 +0200 Subject: Device Tree Blob (DTB) licence In-Reply-To: References: <1430820315.19516.26.camel@opteya.com> <1432289148.5304.58.camel@opteya.com> Message-ID: <55670A86.2060502@melag.de> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org Am 22.05.2015 um 18:26 schrieb Rob Herring: Hi, > Ideally, dtb files are shipped with firmware separately from the OS. > You should be able to run multiple OS's with that dtb. There is often > desire or "requirements" to not have GPL code in firmware. I dont see that begin shipped *with* the firmware (but still as a separate object/file) automatically means a derived work. And I actually wouldn't want dtb strictly so interewoven with the firmware/bootloader, that it can be easily extracted or replaced anymore. IMHO, we shouldn't support such vendors. 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From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" Subject: Re: Device Tree Blob (DTB) licence Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 14:31:02 +0200 Message-ID: <55670A86.2060502@melag.de> References: <1430820315.19516.26.camel@opteya.com> <1432289148.5304.58.camel@opteya.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Return-path: In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Rob Herring , Yann Droneaud Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" , licensing@fsf.org List-Id: devicetree@vger.kernel.org Am 22.05.2015 um 18:26 schrieb Rob Herring: Hi, > Ideally, dtb files are shipped with firmware separately from the OS. > You should be able to run multiple OS's with that dtb. There is ofte= n > desire or "requirements" to not have GPL code in firmware. I dont see that begin shipped *with* the firmware (but still as a separate object/file) automatically means a derived work. And I actually wouldn't want dtb strictly so interewoven with the firmware/bootloader, that it can be easily extracted or replaced anymore. IMHO, we shouldn't support such vendors. (freedom is more than just $0 price) And there shouldn't be any proprietary firmware anyways. cu -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult +49-151-27565287 MELAG Medizintechnik oHG Sitz Berlin Registergericht AG Charlottenburg = HRA 21333 B Wichtiger Hinweis: Diese Nachricht kann vertrauliche oder nur f=C3=BCr = einen begrenzten Personenkreis bestimmte Informationen enthalten. Sie i= st ausschlie=C3=9Flich f=C3=BCr denjenigen bestimmt, an den sie gericht= et worden ist. Wenn Sie nicht der Adressat dieser E-Mail sind, d=C3=BCr= fen Sie diese nicht kopieren, weiterleiten, weitergeben oder sie ganz o= der teilweise in irgendeiner Weise nutzen. 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From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932123AbbE1MbO (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 May 2015 08:31:14 -0400 Received: from mail.melag.de ([217.6.74.107]:27692 "EHLO mail.melag.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752607AbbE1MbG convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 May 2015 08:31:06 -0400 Message-ID: <55670A86.2060502@melag.de> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 14:31:02 +0200 From: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Herring , Yann Droneaud CC: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" , Subject: Re: Device Tree Blob (DTB) licence References: <1430820315.19516.26.camel@opteya.com> <1432289148.5304.58.camel@opteya.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Originating-IP: [192.168.57.169] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am 22.05.2015 um 18:26 schrieb Rob Herring: Hi, > Ideally, dtb files are shipped with firmware separately from the OS. > You should be able to run multiple OS's with that dtb. There is often > desire or "requirements" to not have GPL code in firmware. I dont see that begin shipped *with* the firmware (but still as a separate object/file) automatically means a derived work. And I actually wouldn't want dtb strictly so interewoven with the firmware/bootloader, that it can be easily extracted or replaced anymore. IMHO, we shouldn't support such vendors. (freedom is more than just $0 price) And there shouldn't be any proprietary firmware anyways. cu -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult +49-151-27565287 MELAG Medizintechnik oHG Sitz Berlin Registergericht AG Charlottenburg HRA 21333 B Wichtiger Hinweis: Diese Nachricht kann vertrauliche oder nur für einen begrenzten Personenkreis bestimmte Informationen enthalten. Sie ist ausschließlich für denjenigen bestimmt, an den sie gerichtet worden ist. Wenn Sie nicht der Adressat dieser E-Mail sind, dürfen Sie diese nicht kopieren, weiterleiten, weitergeben oder sie ganz oder teilweise in irgendeiner Weise nutzen. Sollten Sie diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, so benachrichtigen Sie bitte den Absender, indem Sie auf diese Nachricht antworten. Bitte löschen Sie in diesem Fall diese Nachricht und alle Anhänge, ohne eine Kopie zu behalten. Important Notice: This message may contain confidential or privileged information. It is intended only for the person it was addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient of this email you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever. If you received this email in error please notify the sender by replying and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy.