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From: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
To: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail.com>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: "Toshiaki Makita" <makita.toshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, "Jiří Pírko" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"simon.horman@netronome.com" <simon.horman@netronome.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 5/5] rocker: remove support for legacy VLAN ndo ops
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 07:43:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <556D96ED.9010309@mojatatu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE4R7bBL+=-akoNLPqPae=zrYe3DH59t=8UK_T7KhcHSNaKUtw@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/02/15 03:10, Scott Feldman wrote:


> Actually, we're now consistent with bridge man page which says master
> is the default.
>
> Want we want, I believe, is to adjust what the man page says (and the
> bridge vlan command itself), by making the default master and self.
> The kernel and driver are fine, it's the default in the bridge command
> that needs adjusting.  Once we do this, we'll be back to transparent
> with software-only bridge.
>

Question to ask when looking at something of this nature:
Will it work with no suprises if you used today's unmodified app?
The default behavior shouldnt change and unfortunately it does here.

It is not just iproute2 - since this is breaking ABI expectations.
Looking at some app i wrote a while back based on analyzing kernel
expectations at the time, I see the following logic:

user can set master or self on command line.
...
....
if (user DID NOT set master_on || user set self on)
    then set self to on

iow, current behavior:
  01: master is only set if user explicitly asked.
  11: master|self when user explicitly sets both
  10: self is on by default when the user doesnt specify anything
  00: and the last option is to have none set which is not
      possible since we have defaults.

cheers,
jamal


So this is very similar to iproute2 - if nothing is set
it defaults to self.

cheers,
jamal

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-02 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-01 18:39 [PATCH net-next 0/5] rocker: enable by default untagged VLAN support sfeldma
2015-06-01 18:39 ` [PATCH net-next 1/5] rocker: zero allocate ports array sfeldma
2015-06-01 18:39 ` [PATCH net-next 2/5] rocker: cleanup vlan table on error adding vlan sfeldma
2015-06-01 18:39 ` [PATCH net-next 3/5] rocker: install untagged VLAN (vid=0) support for each port sfeldma
2015-06-01 18:39 ` [PATCH net-next 4/5] rocker: install/remove router MAC for untagged VLAN when joining/leaving bridge sfeldma
2015-06-01 18:39 ` [PATCH net-next 5/5] rocker: remove support for legacy VLAN ndo ops sfeldma
2015-06-02  4:51   ` Toshiaki Makita
2015-06-02  5:24     ` David Miller
2015-06-02  6:47       ` Toshiaki Makita
2015-06-02  7:10       ` Scott Feldman
2015-06-02 11:43         ` Jamal Hadi Salim [this message]
2015-06-02 14:30           ` Scott Feldman
2015-06-02 16:58             ` roopa
2015-06-02 19:01               ` Scott Feldman
2015-06-03 15:43                 ` Toshiaki Makita
2015-06-03 18:41                   ` roopa
2015-06-04 15:04                     ` Toshiaki Makita
2015-06-04 15:09                       ` roopa
2015-06-04  6:05                   ` Scott Feldman
2015-06-04 14:35                     ` Toshiaki Makita
2015-06-03 15:44                 ` roopa
2015-06-03 12:08             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-06-11 13:00               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-06-11 18:25                 ` Scott Feldman
2015-06-02  0:01 ` [PATCH net-next 0/5] rocker: enable by default untagged VLAN support David Miller

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