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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Cc: Elena Ufimtseva <elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Draft A] Boot ABI for HVM guests without a device-model
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:38:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55785A0C.5020706@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5578390E.1090700@citrix.com>

El 10/06/15 a les 15.18, Andrew Cooper ha escrit:
>>  * cr0: bit 31 (PG) must be cleared. Bit 0 (PE) must be set. Other bits
>>    are all undefined. 
> 
> "unspecified" is perhaps better phrasing.  Most will be 0, but ET will
> be set as it is a read-only bit in all processors Xen will function on
> these days.

OK. I think we can say that:

 * cr0: bit 0 (PE) and bit 4 (ET) will be set. All the other bits are
   cleared.

> Perhaps also worth calling out cr4 as well, which typically starts as
> all zeroes.

 * cr4: all bits are cleared.

>>
>>  * cs: must be a 32-bit read/execute code segment with an offset of ‘0’
>>    and a limit of ‘0xFFFFFFFF’. The exact value is undefined.
>>
>>  * ds, es, fs, gs, ss: must be a 32-bit read/write data segment with an
>>    offset of ‘0’ and a limit of ‘0xFFFFFFFF’. The exact values are all
>>    undefined. 
> 
> I would be tempted to only define ds and possibly es.  Any code using
> this boot protocol will load its gdt and reload the segments in very
> short order, and ss is useless until esp has been set up appropriately.

I would rather prefer to have ss already defined according to the above
text, this way you just need to load a valid stack into esp, but I'm not
going to strongly argue about it.

>> Do we want to keep using the start_info page? Most of the fields there 
>> are not relevant for auto-translated guests, but without it we have to 
>> figure out how to pass the following information to the guest:
>>
>>  - Flags: SIF_xxx flags, this could probably be done with cpuid instead.
>>  - cmd_line: ?
>>  - console mfn: ?
>>  - console evtchn: ?
>>  - console_info address: ?
> 
> All console information should be available from the HVMPARAMS.  I see
> no reason to prevent a PVH guest getting at these.
> 
> This just leaves the command line being awkward.

I've forgot to add the kernel payload (initramfs), which could also be
fetched using a HVMPARAM, so that just leaves the cmd_line, which could
be passed as a physical memory address in one of the gp registers. I
don't have a strong opinion on whether we should create a new
hvm_start_info struct that contains those, or whether we should just add
new HVMPARAMS.


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-10 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-10 12:34 [Draft A] Boot ABI for HVM guests without a device-model Roger Pau Monné
2015-06-10 13:15 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-10 14:53   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-06-10 15:53     ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-10 15:42   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-06-11 11:01   ` Tim Deegan
2015-06-10 13:18 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-10 15:38   ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2015-06-10 15:57     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-11  8:23       ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-06-10 18:55 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-10 21:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-11  8:31     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-06-11  7:18   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-12 13:30     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-11  8:43   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-06-12 13:23     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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