From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
den@openvz.org, jsnow@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 RFC 0/8] block: persistent dirty bitmaps
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:22:35 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55796F7B.5000105@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150610152756.GA17294@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>
On 10.06.2015 18:27, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 06:21:18PM +0300, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>> QCow2 header is extended by fields 'nb_dirty_bitmaps' and
>> 'dirty_bitmaps_offset' like with snapshots.
>>
>> Proposed command line syntax is the following:
>>
>> -dirty-bitmap [option1=val1][,option2=val2]...
> Two questions:
>
> 1. How does this code ensure that the dirty bitmap is consistent after
> crash/power failure?
It's not done yet. What about consistent ('dirty' is not very good for
dirty bitmaps=) flag for every bitmap? Set it on save and unset on load..
>
> At the minimum, enabled dirty bitmaps must be discarded after
> crash/power failure if we cannot guarantee they are up-to-date. It's
> worse to rely on an outdated dirty bitmap than to detect failure and
> start afresh.
>
> 2. How do persistent dirty bitmaps work with live migration? Remember
> there are two storage cases for live migration: shared storage (NAS or
> SAN) and non-shared storage (disk images must be copied over).
For now:
Only loaded bitmaps are migrated.
So, for shared image, all is ok: loaded bitmaps are migrated (in
migration, if there is a bitmap with same name, size and granularity on
destination, then it will be transparently used as destination bitmap),
not loaded bitmaps are the same in the image.
For non-shared storage, not loaded bitmaps are not migrated at all.
Hmm.. is it bad? Looks like so.
I can add a function to load all not loaded bitmaps from the image in
disabled state. Then variants:
1) call it automatically before migration
2) add a cmd parameter, to load 'all other bitmaps' in disabled state
3) always load all available bitmaps.
(1), (3) are bad I think, because bitmaps may be stored in separate file
(especially for non-qcow2 images), and, if this file is not mentioned in
cmd (all bitmap are not loaded), then there is no possibility of
migrating them automatically.
--
Best regards,
Vladimir
* now, @virtuozzo.com instead of @parallels.com. Sorry for this inconvenience.
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-08 15:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 RFC 0/8] block: persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] spec: add qcow2-dirty-bitmaps specification Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-09 16:01 ` John Snow
2015-06-09 17:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-10 8:19 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-10 8:49 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-10 13:00 ` Eric Blake
2015-06-11 10:16 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-10 13:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-11 10:19 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-11 13:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-11 16:21 ` John Snow
2015-06-12 10:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-12 15:19 ` John Snow
2015-06-10 15:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-06-11 10:25 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-11 16:30 ` John Snow
2015-06-12 8:33 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-08-24 10:46 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-24 13:30 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-24 14:08 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-24 14:04 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-31 22:21 ` Eric Blake
2015-08-31 22:24 ` John Snow
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] qcow2: add dirty-bitmaps feature Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-09 16:52 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-10 14:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-12 19:02 ` John Snow
2015-06-15 14:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-23 17:57 ` John Snow
2015-06-24 9:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-14 17:14 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-26 9:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-11 23:04 ` John Snow
2015-06-15 14:05 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-15 16:53 ` John Snow
2015-06-12 21:55 ` John Snow
2015-08-26 13:15 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-26 14:14 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-27 12:43 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] block: store persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] block: add bdrv_load_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-09 16:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-10 22:33 ` John Snow
2015-06-11 10:41 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] qcow2: add qcow2_dirty_bitmap_delete_all Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] qcow2: add autoclear bit for dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-09 15:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-09 15:50 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-27 7:45 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-31 11:06 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-31 22:39 ` Eric Blake
2015-08-31 22:50 ` Eric Blake
2015-06-10 23:42 ` John Snow
2015-06-11 8:35 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-06-11 10:49 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-11 16:36 ` John Snow
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] qemu: command line option " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-11 20:57 ` John Snow
2015-06-12 21:49 ` John Snow
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] iotests: test internal persistent dirty bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-09 16:17 ` Eric Blake
2015-06-10 15:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 RFC 0/8] block: persistent dirty bitmaps Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-11 11:22 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2015-06-11 13:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-11 20:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-12 9:58 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-06-12 10:36 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-26 6:26 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-26 9:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-12 19:34 ` John Snow
2015-06-17 14:29 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-24 0:21 ` John Snow
2015-07-08 12:24 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-07-08 15:21 ` John Snow
2015-08-27 10:08 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
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