All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jack Mitchell <ml@communistcode.co.uk>
To: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: meta/lib/oe/rootfs.py: dont' remove any packages by default
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:05:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55BB5674.10606@communistcode.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2950215.CmNeN3gmTU@peggleto-mobl.ger.corp.intel.com>

On 31/07/15 11:46, Paul Eggleton wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> On Friday 31 July 2015 14:56:15 Robert Yang wrote:
>> Currently, the rootfs.py removes base-passwd, shadow, update-rc.d,
>> update-alternatives and run-postinsts when package-management not
>> in IMAGE_FEATURES, this causes two problems:
>>
>> 1) This makes we can't install the removed pkgs to rootfs, such as
>>      IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " shadow", the shadow can't installed (first
>>      installed, then removed)
>>
>> 2) The base-passwd has been removed, but the /etc/passwd and /etc/group
>>      are still existed since they are generated by preinst, this would
>>      confuse the user, and we can't add a postuninst to remove /etc/passwd
>>      and /etc/group since they are required when runtime.
>>
>> I think that we should not remove any pkgs by default, we can add some
>> interfaces/ways to let the user decide whether to remove them or any
>> other pkgs, for example, add a REMOVE_PACKAGS variable, leave it as NULL
>> or only add run-postinsts to it by default.
> There is a reason for these not to be there by default when you don't have
> runtime package management - the assumption is you won't be adding or removing
> any users, thus the binaries that those packages install aren't needed.
>
> Now, it might be argued that if for example you're using some non-package-
> management based application installation mechanism that has per-application
> users (Android does this) you will need to add and remove users and therefore
> you do still need those tools, in which case we would probably need a
> mechanism for preventing the removal of those packages. I'm not sure whether
> that would be an IMAGE_FEATURES item (e.g. "user-management"), or perhaps we
> just make this code get the value of a variable specifying the list of
> packages to remove instead of it being hardcoded as it is now. Either way
> though I think the default behaviour does make sense for most people and I
> don't think we ought to be changing that part.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul

Recently I tried (and failed) to add update-rc.d to my image so I could 
disable/enable init scripts easily and this explains why. I don't know 
what to do about it, but I don't have package management however I would 
like update-rc.d, so I second that something needs to be done to allow 
exceptions or overrides.

Cheers,


  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-31 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-31  6:56 meta/lib/oe/rootfs.py: dont' remove any packages by default Robert Yang
2015-07-31 10:46 ` Paul Eggleton
2015-07-31 11:05   ` Jack Mitchell [this message]
2015-07-31 11:09   ` Nicolas Dechesne
2015-07-31 11:12     ` Paul Eggleton
2015-07-31 12:01       ` Nicolas Dechesne
2015-08-01  3:57   ` Robert Yang
2015-08-05 10:23     ` Paul Eggleton

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=55BB5674.10606@communistcode.co.uk \
    --to=ml@communistcode.co.uk \
    --cc=openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.