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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Shuah Khan <shuah.kh@samsung.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Fix devm_kzalloc, its users, or both
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 17:48:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55BD68DE.5060903@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150801151839.GA9480@mtj.duckdns.org>

On 08/01/2015 08:18 AM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 02:01:02PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>>> Would it be possible to call the devres cleanup at this point, rather than
>>> on the remove function?
>>
>> As devres cleanup will also take care of interrupts and ioremap'ed regions I
>> don't think that would be an option. Otherwise we would have trouble when the
>> device is reprobed as resources would be busy.
>>
>> We could possibly create an API to allow drivers to keep references to some
>> devres-allocate objects, but that's arguably a hack.
>
> Another factor to consider is that even if the driver separately
> allocates e.g. memory which may be accessed after removal, it's mighty
> difficult to verify that file operations which take place post removal
> don't have any dependency on things which are released on removal.  I
> mean, we've always had a lot of drivers which are fairly confused
> about lifetime rules.
>
> devm allocated memory *might* make certain failures more obvious as
> the memory itself gets freed right away but I'd be very surprised if
> there aren't already a bunch of drivers which fail to fully isolate
> post-removal file operations regardless of devm.
>
> So, all in all, if we actually want to fix this issue, well at least
> most of it, I think the only viable way would be implementing revoke
> semantics and drain and sever all operations on removal.  Maybe it'll
> end up another devm interface.
>

Maybe that is completely nonsense, but how about something like
	devm_get(dev);
to be called whenever a file used by a device is opened, and
	devm_put(dev);
whenever it is closed ?

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-02  0:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-31 15:14 [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Fix devm_kzalloc, its users, or both Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-31 15:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-07-31 16:34 ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-31 16:51   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 16:57     ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-31 17:03       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 16:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-31 17:02     ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 17:05       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 17:13         ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 17:33           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 17:36             ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 18:28               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 18:40                 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 19:41                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-01 10:57                     ` Mark Brown
2015-08-02 14:05                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 14:21                       ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-01 11:04     ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 11:21       ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-04 12:55         ` Dan Carpenter
2015-08-04 14:01           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-04 17:55           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-04 18:03             ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-04 18:07               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-04 19:49             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-07-31 17:04 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 17:27   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-01 10:55     ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 16:30       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 23:33         ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 10:47   ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 10:55     ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-01 11:01       ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 15:18         ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-02  0:48           ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2015-08-02 14:30             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 16:04               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 10:40               ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 11:18                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-04 11:56                   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 11:59                     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 14:48                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 22:44                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-05  9:41                       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 10:49               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-10  7:58 ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-10 10:23   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-11 11:35     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-11 15:19       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-21  2:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 15:07   ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-21 16:14     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 16:58       ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 17:30         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 17:41           ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 17:52             ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 18:05               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 18:18                 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-12 18:36                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-12 18:44                     ` Mark Brown
2015-10-14 15:58                       ` Theodore Ts'o

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