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From: Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>,
	"Kalle A. Sandstrom" <ksandstr@iki.fi>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Havoc Pennington <havoc.pennington@gmail.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>, cee1 <fykcee1@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 16:40:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55C4C35A.4070306@zonque.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVr04ZdXHLZXLp_Y+m68Db5Mmh_Wnu6prNCfCqgWm0QzA@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/06/2015 08:43 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Nonetheless, it looks like the slice logic (aside: it looks *way* more
> complicated than necessary -- what's wrong with circular buffers)
> will, under most (but not all!) workloads, concentrate access to a
> smallish fraction of the pool.  This is IMO bad, since it means that
> most of the time most of the pool will remain uncommitted.  If, at
> some point, something causes the access pattern to change and hit all
> the pages (even just once), suddenly all of the pools get committed,
> and your memory usage blows up.

That's a general problem with memory overcommitment, and not specific to
kdbus. IOW: You'd have the same problem with a similar logic implemented
in userspace, right?


Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-07 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-23  6:06 kdbus: to merge or not to merge? Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23  6:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23  6:41 ` Greg KH
2015-06-23  7:22   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-23  9:25     ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23  9:38       ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23 15:07     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-25  2:14       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-25  2:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-25  6:01           ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-25  6:05             ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-25 13:34               ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-06-25 14:03                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23  9:12   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-08 13:54   ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-09  8:39     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-09 10:29       ` Joe Perches
2015-07-09 10:57         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-09 11:36       ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-23 23:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-24  0:52   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-24  8:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 10:41     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-24 10:46     ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 13:18       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 17:39         ` David Lang
2015-06-24 18:41           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-24 18:50           ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 19:12             ` David Lang
2015-06-25  7:57               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-25 15:26                 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-25  6:31           ` Greg KH
2015-06-25  6:48             ` David Lang
2015-06-25  7:47           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-25  7:51             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 11:43     ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 13:27       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24  9:55 ` Alexander Larsson
2015-06-24 14:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <CAHr-LrYWNwv6_YLoP-B3duQ1QsjPiTiaEnjBQ7j2brPMeTgA3A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <CALCETrW3F6YP_H1oRJa47f1DT7B35OubhJYSnq0U-_GmFQHNOA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-06-24 17:11         ` Alexander Larsson
2015-06-24 19:43           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-24 20:45             ` Alexander Larsson
2015-08-03 23:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-04  8:58   ` David Herrmann
2015-08-04 13:46     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-04 14:09       ` David Herrmann
2015-08-04 14:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-05  0:18           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06  7:06             ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-06 15:27               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 17:24                 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-05  7:10           ` David Herrmann
2015-08-05 20:11             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06  8:04               ` David Herrmann
2015-08-06  8:25                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-08-06 15:21                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 18:14                   ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-06 18:43                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-07 14:40                       ` Daniel Mack [this message]
2015-08-07 15:09                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CA+55aFxDLt-5+=xXeYG4nJKMb8L_iD9FmwTZ2VuughBku-mW3g@mail.gmail.com>
2015-08-09 19:00                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-09 22:11                             ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-09 22:11                               ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-10  2:10                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-10  2:10                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-10 17:04                               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-10 17:04                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-10  2:48                             ` David Lang
2015-08-07 15:37                       ` cee1
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-01  0:03 Kalle A. Sandstrom
2015-07-01 16:51 ` David Herrmann
2015-07-06 21:18   ` Kalle A. Sandstrom

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