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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Razvan Cojocaru <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: Can I xc_await_suspend() for a suspend event caused by another application?
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 10:52:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55C8745D.7010902@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55C86EA9.2000600@bitdefender.com>

On 10/08/15 10:28, Razvan Cojocaru wrote:
>> I've noticed that the xc_suspend_evtchn_init() functions in xenguest.h
>> connect the client application to a guest suspend event channel, and
>> that it's possible to subscribe to these events, in theory even if you
>> never signal the channel (i.e. even if you don't issue a suspend request).
>>
>> But all the in-tree examples I've read seem to first signal the channel
>> and then wait on the same channel for the confirmation that the guest is
>> suspending.
>>
>> Can the event channel be used solely to inform a monitoring application
>> that _another_ application (for example, xl) has requested a suspend?
> Looking at the code and what documentation I could find, it turns out
> that not only xc_suspend_evtchn_init() has not been designed to do what
> I am after, but it additionally only works for (some) PV guests.
>
> I've also looked into monitoring writes to ~/control/shutdown, but that
> of course also only applies to PV domains.
>
> What I need is to be able to know that any domain (but mostly HVMs) is
> about to be suspended, so that I can do some hooks cleanup in the guest
> while it's still running, and I'm looking for a way to do that without
> modifying Xen at all, otherwise I'd need to send out a new kind of
> vm_event or something similar, and obviously simpler is better. Could
> maybe someone kindly point out a reliable way to do that with the
> current Xen code, if it exists and I just haven't been able to find it?

What point of suspend do you need to be before?

Hooking the actual point of suspend is quite easy - hook
SCHEDOP_shutdown (for domains doing PV suspend themselves) and
SCHEDOP_remote_shutdown (for qemu suspending a guest on behalf of a non
PV action).

Off the top of my head, the following methods of starting a suspend from
outside of the guest are:

* ~/control/shutdown, but a guest (including PV aware HVM) can ignore this
* ~/control/sysrq, to send a sysrq key
* Inject an ACPI "power button" or "lid closed" GPE, but neither of
these might result in suspend.

Furthermore, hooking those doesn't catch an internal attempt to suspend.

I think your best bet is to actually hook the suspend/shutdown path
inside the guest.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-10  9:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-24 12:08 Can I xc_await_suspend() for a suspend event caused by another application? Razvan Cojocaru
2015-08-10  9:28 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2015-08-10  9:52   ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-08-10 10:03     ` Razvan Cojocaru

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