All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Pan Xinhui <xinhuix.pan@intel.com>
To: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	pmladek@suse.cz, rostedt@goodmis.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	hch@lst.de, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: rebalance printk
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:16:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55CBFDFE.4040208@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55CB3CAC.6000003@hurleysoftware.com>



On 2015年08月12日 20:31, Peter Hurley wrote:
> On 08/11/2015 02:16 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 07:23:01PM +0800, Pan Xinhui wrote:
>>> From: Pan Xinhui <xinhuix.pan@intel.com>
>>>
>>> printk can be called in any context, It's very useful to output debug
>>> info.
>>>
>>> But it might cause very bad issues on some special cases. For example,
>>> some driver hit errors, and it dumps many messages like reg values, etc. 
>>>
>>> Sometimes, printk is called when irqs disabled. This is OKay if there is
>>> a few messages. But What would happen if many messages outputted by other
>>> drivers at same time.
>>>
>>> Here is the scenario.
>>> CPUA					CPUB
>>> 					local_irq_save(flags);
>>> 					printk()
>>> while(..) {					--> console_unlock
>>> 	printk(...);			
>>> 	//hundreds or thousands loops
>>> }				//all messages flushed out to consoles
>>> 					local_irq_restore(flags);
>>>
>>
>> Where are you seeing this type of scenario "in the wild"?  Or is this
>> just a "debug/bringup hardware" issue?
> 
> There have been problem reports of big machines getting soft-lockup/RCU stall
> warnings with serial console attached. I think SLES is carrying patches
> from Jan Kara to try to workaround this issue.
> 
> 
commit 5874af2003b1aaaa053128d655710140e3187226 ("printk: enable interrupts before calling console_trylock_for_printk()")
does help much in most cases. Thanks Jan Kara for that patch!

However there are still some corner cases like that I mentioned above.
As preempt is disabled in console_unlock(), Even applying my patch, softlockup/RCU warning still goes out.

I am very looking forward to Jan Kara's new patch to walk around it. Of course I will also try to work out a pre-review patch with my new idea
to fix these softlockpup/RCU warning.

Thanks
xinhui

>> We shouldn't be ever stuck in a
>> printk that prints hundreds or thousands of loops, if so, we need to fix
>> the kernel code that does that, as we do have control over this.
> 
> The loop referred to here is the loop in console_unlock(). Essentially
> what happens is one cpu can get trapped in the console_unlock() output
> loop; printk()'s from other cpus are only appending to the logbuf since
> they can't acquire the console_lock (which is owned by the one cpu trapped
> in the output loop).
> 
> Regards,
> Peter Hurley
> 

      reply	other threads:[~2015-08-13  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-11 11:23 [PATCH] printk: rebalance printk Pan Xinhui
2015-08-11 11:34 ` Pan Xinhui
2015-08-11 12:00 ` Peter Hurley
2015-08-12  1:35   ` Pan Xinhui
2015-08-11 18:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-12  1:53   ` Pan Xinhui
2015-08-12  2:04     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-12  2:20       ` Pan Xinhui
2015-08-12 12:31   ` Peter Hurley
2015-08-13  2:16     ` Pan Xinhui [this message]

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=55CBFDFE.4040208@intel.com \
    --to=xinhuix.pan@intel.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=hch@lst.de \
    --cc=joe@perches.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=peter@hurleysoftware.com \
    --cc=pmladek@suse.cz \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    --cc=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
    --cc=vvs@virtuozzo.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.