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From: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] x86 fixes
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 12:59:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55D1BE89.1030108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150817080143.GA16928@gmail.com>

On 08/17/2015 10:01 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> (Sorry about the late reply, wasn't around on the weekend.)
> 
> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
>> Now that said, I doubt anybody cares. Since we don't support the original 80386, 
>> the only way to ever trigger FP emulation is by having a 486SX or possibly a 
>> couple of even rarer clone chips. [...]
> 
> Yeah. So when I re-wrote the FPU code I tried to test math-emu by booting with 
> 'no387': it turned out that ever since the XSAVE code got merged upstream, 
> math-emu oopsed reliably during bootup with a NULL reference, because it wasn't 
> updated to the dynamic allocation logic in:
> 
>   61c4628b5386 ("x86, fpu: split FPU state from task struct - v5")
> 
> That was 6 years ago, so anything v2.6.26 and later probably has 100% non-working 
> math-emu.
> 
> So when I re-introduced static allocations math-emu started working again, to a 
> limited degree: on a modern distro, trying to boot /bin/bash I got a prompt, but 
> various programs would segfault. I did not investigate it any deeper, I suppose 
> the FPU emulation does not go far enough for modern user-space, or maybe it has 
> more bugs.
> 
> So in reality nobody has cared about x86 math-emu in the last 6 years

Well... there is this completely crazy x86 javascript emulator by Fabrice Bellard:

http://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.html

"The CPU is close to a 486 compatible x86 without FPU. The lack of FPU
is not a problem when running Linux as Operating System because it
contains a FPU emulator."


I have it running linux 2.6.20 and busybox here:

http://busybox.net/live_bbox/live_bbox.html

(or rather, *you* will have it running linux 2.6.20 inside your browser,
after you click on that link)

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-17 10:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 411+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-14  7:15 [GIT PULL] x86 fixes Ingo Molnar
2015-08-14 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-14 18:46   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-14 18:57     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-14 19:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-14 19:18         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-14 19:37           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-14 19:14       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-17  8:01   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-17 10:59     ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2015-08-17 16:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-18  7:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-17 16:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-17 16:58       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-08-17 17:17         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-17 22:17           ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-08-19  5:59             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-19  6:15               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-19  6:50               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-19 10:00                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-08-19 22:33                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-20  6:54                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-08-19 21:53                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-08-21 10:17                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-08-17 23:47           ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2015-08-17 21:03     ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-08-17 23:59     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-18  0:01       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-08-18  0:06       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-08-18  0:19         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-18  5:56           ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-08-18  5:59           ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-08-18  7:55       ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-05-09  2:04 Ingo Molnar
2026-05-09  3:32 ` pr-tracker-bot
2015-10-23 11:45 Ingo Molnar
2015-10-03 10:24 Ingo Molnar
2015-10-03 10:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-03 19:40   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-17  8:28 Ingo Molnar
2015-08-22 12:21 Ingo Molnar
2015-08-01  8:44 Ingo Molnar
2015-07-18  3:18 Ingo Molnar
2015-07-20  7:20 ` Heiko Carstens
2015-07-04 11:29 Ingo Molnar
2015-06-05  8:40 Ingo Molnar
2015-05-27 12:54 Ingo Molnar
2015-05-06 12:58 Ingo Molnar
2015-05-06 18:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-18 15:26 Ingo Molnar
2015-04-03 13:16 Ingo Molnar
2015-03-17 16:54 Ingo Molnar
2015-03-05 17:02 Ingo Molnar
2015-03-01 17:14 Ingo Molnar
2015-02-20 13:47 Ingo Molnar
2015-01-11  8:51 Ingo Molnar
2014-12-14 19:46 Ingo Molnar
2014-11-20  8:02 Ingo Molnar
2014-11-16  9:07 Ingo Molnar
2014-11-17  7:42 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-11-17  8:27   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-11-17 13:58     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-11-17 21:02       ` Kees Cook
2014-11-17 21:05         ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-11-17 21:21         ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-11-17 23:09           ` Kees Cook
2014-10-31 11:26 Ingo Molnar
2014-09-27  6:02 Ingo Molnar
2014-09-19 10:40 Ingo Molnar
2014-09-23  5:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-09-23  5:35   ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-23  5:37     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-23  5:44       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-23  5:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-09-23  6:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-09-23  6:56           ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]             ` <CA+55aFz+2tf7zEGjVmkVuncZssiDdVRKJ=OUfgnDFf2TYN-KvA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-09-23  7:35               ` Matt Fleming
2014-09-23 12:18             ` Josh Boyer
2014-09-23  5:58       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-23  7:20         ` Matt Fleming
2014-09-23  8:18           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2014-09-23 13:18             ` Matt Fleming
2014-09-23 13:59               ` Leif Lindholm
2014-09-23 14:25               ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-09-23 14:37                 ` Matt Fleming
2014-09-23 16:01                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-09-24  7:26                   ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-24 11:42                     ` Matt Fleming
2014-09-24 13:08                       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-24 13:18                         ` Matt Fleming
2014-09-24 13:18                           ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-23 16:05               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-09-23 16:11                 ` Matt Fleming
2014-09-23 16:17                   ` Josh Boyer
2014-09-23 17:21                     ` Josh Boyer
2014-09-23 20:43                       ` Matt Fleming
2014-08-24 20:28 Ingo Molnar
2014-04-16 13:21 Ingo Molnar
2013-11-13 20:47 Ingo Molnar
2013-10-18 19:11 Ingo Molnar
2013-10-12 17:15 Ingo Molnar
2013-10-12 18:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-12 18:18   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-12 18:49     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-15  7:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-15 10:57         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-10-12 19:28   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-12 19:41     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-12 20:35       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-04  7:57 Ingo Molnar
2013-09-25 18:16 Ingo Molnar
2013-09-18 16:24 Ingo Molnar
2013-09-05 11:03 Ingo Molnar
2013-08-19 11:23 Ingo Molnar
2013-04-14 15:55 Ingo Molnar
2013-02-26 12:10 Ingo Molnar
2013-02-04 18:31 Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 14:52 Ingo Molnar
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2012-04-03 23:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-04  6:56   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-04-04 13:03     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
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2011-05-31 16:30 Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 16:35 ` Joe Perches
2011-05-31 18:16   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-05-31 19:04     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 19:51       ` Borislav Petkov
2011-05-31 21:35     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-01  6:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-01  6:08         ` Joe Perches
2011-06-01  6:18         ` Borislav Petkov
2011-06-01  6:24         ` Ingo Molnar
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2011-03-22 10:20 Ingo Molnar
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2010-10-27 16:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-26  8:50 Ingo Molnar
2010-09-08 13:08 Ingo Molnar
2010-06-02 11:49 Ingo Molnar
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2010-03-26 15:43 Ingo Molnar
2010-03-29 15:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-29 16:47   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-13 16:39 Ingo Molnar
2010-01-31 17:19 Ingo Molnar
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2010-01-16 20:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-16 20:53   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-01-16 21:16     ` Ian Campbell
2010-01-16 22:12       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-01-17  0:50       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-16 21:06   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-16 21:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-17  0:18   ` Brian Gerst
2010-01-17  6:00     ` Ian Campbell
2009-12-31 12:03 Ingo Molnar
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2009-03-06 18:36 [git pull] " Ingo Molnar
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2009-02-19 17:10 Ingo Molnar
2009-02-21  2:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-21  6:56   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-21  8:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-21  8:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-21  8:42       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-21  9:18     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-02-21  9:46       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-17 16:36 Ingo Molnar
2009-02-11 14:31 Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 19:22 Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30 23:00 Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 17:17 Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 19:05 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 19:20   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 19:40     ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 19:59       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 20:14         ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 20:28           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-19 23:23 Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 18:28 Ingo Molnar
2009-01-11 14:39 Ingo Molnar
2009-01-11 16:45 ` Torsten Kaiser
2009-01-11 18:18   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 18:17   ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-01-12 19:01     ` Torsten Kaiser
2009-01-12 19:19       ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-01-12 19:29         ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-01-12 19:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-12 19:54             ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-01-12 20:38               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 20:52             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 21:03               ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-12 21:12                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 21:55               ` Torsten Kaiser
2009-01-12 22:03                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 20:05           ` Torsten Kaiser
2009-01-12 20:40             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 21:50               ` Torsten Kaiser
2009-01-12 22:13                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-13 19:20                   ` Torsten Kaiser
2009-01-12 22:16                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-02 21:48 Ingo Molnar
2008-12-20 13:43 Ingo Molnar
2008-12-20 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-20 19:31   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-20 22:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-20 20:58   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-12-08 18:26 Ingo Molnar
2008-12-04 19:46 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-29 19:31 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-20 11:22 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 20:35 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-06 21:29 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-01 17:06 Ingo Molnar
2008-10-30 23:34 Ingo Molnar
2008-10-28 10:49 Ingo Molnar
2008-10-23 19:33 Ingo Molnar
2008-10-17 17:27 Ingo Molnar
2008-10-15 16:32 Ingo Molnar
2008-10-01 18:05 Ingo Molnar
2008-09-27 21:02 Ingo Molnar
2008-09-23 19:34 Ingo Molnar
2008-09-17  9:58 Ingo Molnar
2008-09-09 19:03 H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 19:32 H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 20:34 ` David Sanders
2008-09-08 21:20   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 21:22     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 21:43   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 22:16     ` David Sanders
2008-09-09  6:05       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-09  7:19         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-09 19:18 ` David Sanders
2008-09-09 19:56   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-09 20:37     ` David Sanders
2008-09-09 20:45       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-09 20:46         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-09 20:49           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-09 20:53           ` David Sanders
2008-09-08 17:52 H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-08 18:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-08 22:42     ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-08 18:22   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 18:46     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-08 18:51       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 19:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-08 19:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-08 19:55             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-08 20:14               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 23:17             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-09-08 18:42               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-09 10:24               ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09 14:54                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-09 17:01                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-09 17:17                 ` Mark Lord
2008-09-09 17:19                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-09 17:48                   ` Mark Lord
2008-09-09 18:40                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09 16:05             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-09-09 16:15               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-08 20:25           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-09  7:27             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-08 22:43       ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09 16:57   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-09-09 17:03     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-09 17:43       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-09-09 18:12         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-06 19:01 Ingo Molnar
2008-09-05 18:51 Ingo Molnar
2008-08-28 11:41 Ingo Molnar
2008-08-25 17:50 Ingo Molnar
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2008-07-26 19:15 Ingo Molnar
2008-07-24 15:12 Ingo Molnar
2008-07-24 19:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-24 20:38   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 14:03 Ingo Molnar
2008-07-22 14:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-07-22 15:08   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-22 15:23     ` Johannes Weiner
2008-07-17 17:32 Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 15:01 Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 15:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 16:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-05 19:29 Ingo Molnar
2008-07-04 16:48 Ingo Molnar
2008-06-30 15:30 Ingo Molnar
2008-06-19 15:13 Ingo Molnar
2008-06-19 21:29 ` Simon Holm Thøgersen
2008-06-19 23:34   ` Suresh Siddha
2008-06-12 19:51 Ingo Molnar
2008-05-13 19:27 Ingo Molnar
2008-05-13 19:40 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-13 20:02   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-13 20:38   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-13 21:01   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-13 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-04 19:35 Ingo Molnar
2008-05-05 15:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-05 15:29   ` Andres Salomon
2008-05-06 12:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 15:41       ` Andres Salomon
2008-05-07 19:08         ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 19:48           ` Andres Salomon
2008-05-07 20:07             ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-09 10:28         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-30 21:24 Ingo Molnar
2008-04-24 21:37 Ingo Molnar
2008-04-07 19:38 Ingo Molnar
2008-03-27 20:03 Ingo Molnar
2008-03-27 20:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-27 20:48   ` Harvey Harrison
2008-03-27 20:55     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-27 21:01       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-27 21:08         ` Harvey Harrison
2008-03-27 20:50   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-27 21:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-26 21:41 Ingo Molnar
2008-03-21 16:20 Ingo Molnar
2008-03-11 16:12 Ingo Molnar
2008-03-07 15:50 Ingo Molnar
2008-03-04 16:59 Ingo Molnar
2008-03-03 13:18 Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 17:21 Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21  0:46 Ingo Molnar
2007-12-19 23:04 Ingo Molnar
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2007-12-02 19:12 Ingo Molnar
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