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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, jcody@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] block/nfs: cache allocated filesize for read-only files
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 11:23:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55D76CB8.4050001@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55D769C4.4010205@kamp.de>

On 2015-08-21 at 11:11, Peter Lieven wrote:
> Am 21.08.2015 um 18:46 schrieb Max Reitz:
>> On 2015-08-21 at 00:49, Peter Lieven wrote:
>>> If the file is readonly its not expected to grow so
>>> save the blocking call to nfs_fstat_async and use
>>> the value saved at connection time. Also important
>>> the monitor (and thus the main loop) will not hang
>>> if block device info is queried and the NFS share
>>> is unresponsive.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
>>> ---
>>>    block/nfs.c | 6 ++++++
>>>    1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
>>
>> First, I don't like the idea of this patch very much, but since I've never used qemu's native NFS client, it's not up to me to decide whether it's worth it.
>
> I am trying to solve that a stale NFS Server with a CDROM ISO on it can hang Qemus main loop. One of the things that happens is that
> you query "info block" in hmp or "query-block" via QMP and indirectly call bdrv_get_allocated_file_size and bang, Qemu hangs. Also I don't
> know if its worth to issue an RPC call for each executing of info block.

OK.

>>
>> When it comes to breaking this, what comes to mind first is some external program opening the image read-write outside of qemu and writing to it. Maybe that's a case we generally don't want, but maybe that's something some people do on purpose, knowing what they're doing (with raw images), you never know.
>
> I would consider this bad behaviour. However, allocated file size shouldn't matter for raw images.

I don't know about NFS, but for other file systems it does.

$ ./qemu-img create -f raw test.raw 1G
$ ./qemu-io -c 'write 1023M 1M' test.raw
$ ./qemu-img info test.raw
...
virtual size: 1.0G (1073741824 bytes)
disk size: 1.0M

I do consider it bad behavior, too, but with raw images it should 
actually be valid for some use cases.

> If you resize the image from external you have to call bdrv_truncate anyway to make Qemu aware
> of that change.
>
>>
>> Other than that, there's reopening. As far as I'm aware, qemu can reopen a R/W image read-only, and if that happens, st_blocks may be stale.
>
> Thats a valid point. But it can be solved be implementing .bdrv_reopen_prepare and update st_blocks there.

Right. Since the allocated size is not that important of an information, 
generally, I think I'd be fine with breaking the use case of writing to 
an image with an external tool while qemu is using that image read-only, 
as long as reopening works.

> Thanks for you thoughts,

Thanks for your patch. :-)

Max

      reply	other threads:[~2015-08-21 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-21  7:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] block/nfs: cache allocated filesize for read-only files Peter Lieven
2015-08-21 16:46 ` Max Reitz
2015-08-21 18:11   ` Peter Lieven
2015-08-21 18:23     ` Max Reitz [this message]

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