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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Programmingkid <programmingkidx@gmail.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Jeff Cody" <jcody@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel qemu-devel" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 18:08:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55DE38C2.3020109@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C040377B-9144-4DAC-A2BD-291EF55FA8FD@gmail.com>



On 08/26/2015 05:48 PM, Programmingkid wrote:
> 
> On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> 
>> On 26 August 2015 at 18:16, Programmingkid <programmingkidx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> That is assuming they have the time and/or the interest in solving this problem. I
>>> suppose giving them some time to respond would be reasonable. I'm thinking if
>>> no consensus has been reached in one weeks time (starting today), we turn to
>>> Peter Maydell for the answer. Hopefully he will just pick which of the patches he
>>> likes the best. Judging by how long this problem has been ongoing, someone
>>> pick the answer is probably the best we can expect.
>>
>> This is the kind of thing I strongly prefer to leave to the
>> relevant subsystem maintainer(s). My opinion is not worth
>> a great deal since I don't have a strong familiarity with
>> this bit of QEMU.
> 
> It looks unreasonable to assume any consensus can be reached over this issue.
> The easy thing to do is to just let each maintainer deal with this problem
> his own way. 
> 

What feedback was there that seemed insurmountable? Last I talked to
Jeff Cody he said there was no "overwhelming pushback" against his
patches, just a list of concerns.

This doesn't sound like a dead end so much as it sounds like we haven't
planned the feature enough yet.

> Markus:
> I know you really wanted a single ID generating system, but it just isn't going
> to happen. I will make a patch that would only effect USB devices. All other
> devices would be untouched. At least the device_del problem will be solved.
> 

I think this is being unnecessarily hasty. We should make sure that an
auto-generated ID system does not create problems for other areas of
code before we rush ahead with one to solve a single problem.

Let's give the universal approach some more time before we jump to the
conclusion that it's impossible.

--js

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-26 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-24 18:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation Programmingkid
2015-08-24 22:21 ` Eric Blake
2015-08-25 12:42   ` Markus Armbruster
2015-08-25 15:25     ` Programmingkid
2015-08-25 15:33       ` Peter Maydell
2015-08-25 15:50         ` Programmingkid
2015-08-25 18:30           ` Markus Armbruster
2015-08-25 19:05             ` Programmingkid
2015-08-25 14:33   ` Programmingkid
2015-08-25 12:38 ` [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation) Markus Armbruster
2015-08-25 15:15   ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 14:52   ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 16:31     ` [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? Markus Armbruster
2015-08-26 17:16       ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 18:45         ` Peter Maydell
2015-08-26 21:48           ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 22:08             ` John Snow [this message]
2015-08-27  3:40               ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27  5:39                 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-08-27 15:39                   ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 17:25       ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-26 17:29         ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 18:08           ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-26 18:17             ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 22:01               ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-26 22:04                 ` John Snow
2015-08-27  3:26                   ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27  3:22                 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 12:32                   ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 13:00                     ` Eric Blake
2015-08-27 13:39                       ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 13:51                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 14:01                           ` Eric Blake
2015-08-27 14:18                             ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 14:19                             ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 14:01                           ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 18:59                       ` John Snow
2015-08-27 19:20                         ` Eric Blake
2015-08-27 13:33                     ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 13:49                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 13:56                         ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 14:02                           ` Eric Blake
2015-08-27 14:34                             ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 14:42                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 15:20                                 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 15:40                                   ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 15:58                                     ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 16:02                                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 16:08                                         ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 16:22                                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 16:49                                             ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 20:15                                             ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 19:08                                         ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 19:27                                           ` Eric Blake
2015-08-27 20:37                                             ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 14:06                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 14:54                             ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 14:07                       ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 15:13                         ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 15:19                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 15:22                             ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 15:55                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 16:03                                 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 16:06                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 16:08                                     ` Eric Blake
2015-09-01 12:34                     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-01 14:18                       ` Programmingkid
2015-09-01 14:43                         ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-01 15:55                           ` Programmingkid
2015-09-03 14:34       ` Programmingkid
2015-09-03 14:43         ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-03 15:55           ` Programmingkid
2015-09-03 16:12           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation Programmingkid
2015-08-26 17:28   ` [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation) Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-26 17:46     ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 17:53       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-26 18:01         ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 13:54           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 14:03             ` Programmingkid

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