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From: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
To: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	chamaken@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, fw@strlen.de
Subject: Re: [PATCHv1 net-next 0/5] netlink: mmap: kernel panic and some issues
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 11:22:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EFFA72.2080600@iogearbox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150909085333.GD5986@pox.localdomain>

On 09/09/2015 10:53 AM, Thomas Graf wrote:
> On 09/07/15 at 04:54pm, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
>> On 08/17/2015 11:02 PM, David Miller wrote:
>> ...
>>> I would seriously rather see us do an expensive full copy of the SKB
>>> than to have traffic which is unexpectedly invisible to taps.
>>
>> I've been looking into this issue a bit further, so the copy for the
>> tap seems doable, but while further going through the code to find similar
>> issues elsewhere, and doing some experiments, it looks like we write
>> shared info also in some edge-cases of upcalls such as nfqueue or ovs
>> when mmaped netlink is used for rx. I did a test with nfqueue using
>> the libmnl mmap branch [1].
>
> Note that OVS does not utilize mmaped netlink even though it has been
> considered for a while. It is theoretically possible that non-OVS user
> space user of the OVS netlink API is using it although I'm not aware
> somebody actually does. We can probably fix this specifically for nfqueue.

Sure, I know, it's not included in OVS user space upstream. I meant the
kernel parts of these subsystems where it could be possible /iff/ there's
someone running a netlink socket in rx ring mode against it (but I have
no overview whether someone is doing this in the wild); sorry, should have
been more specific.

Netlink mmap is also not officially upstream in libmnl and neither in
libnetfilter_queue. It looks like it's sitting in the libmnl branch that
I mentioned, but didn't get merged so far. Afaik, Ken-ichirou was doing
work related to adapting this into netfilter in the past.

Anyway, I'll get the stuff ready tonight that I have so far wrt fixes.

Cheers,
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-22 13:17 [RFC PATCH 0/5] netlink: mmap kernel panic and some issues Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-12  8:28 ` [PATCHv1 net-next 0/5] netlink: mmap: " Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-12  8:31   ` [PATCHv1 net-next 1/5] netlink: mmap: introduce mmaped skb helper functions Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-12  8:32   ` [PATCHv1 net-next 2/5] netlink: mmap: apply " Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-12  8:34   ` [PATCHv1 net-next 3/5] netlink: mmap: fix status for not delivered skb Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-12  8:35   ` [PATCHv1 net-next 4/5] netlink: mmap: update tx type check Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-12  8:38   ` [PATCHv1 net-next 5/5] netlink: mmap: notify only when NL_MMAP_STATUS_VALID frame exists Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-12 23:38   ` [PATCHv1 net-next 0/5] netlink: mmap: kernel panic and some issues David Miller
2015-08-14  8:58     ` Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-14 10:01       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-08-14 10:38         ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-08-15  2:25           ` Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-17 21:02           ` David Miller
2015-08-19 14:29             ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-09-02  0:04               ` Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-09-02  9:47                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-09-02 11:35                   ` Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-09-02 15:56                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-09-02 22:27                       ` Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-09-07 14:54             ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-09-09  5:59               ` David Miller
2015-09-09  8:53               ` Thomas Graf
2015-09-09  9:22                 ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2015-08-20  3:43           ` [PATCH net] netlink: mmap: fix tx type check Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-23 23:06             ` David Miller
2015-08-20  5:54           ` [PATCH net] netlink: rx mmap: fix POLLIN condition Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-26  3:17             ` David Miller
2015-08-28  7:00               ` Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-28  7:05                 ` [PATCH net] netlink: mmap: fix lookup frame position Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-29  5:26                   ` David Miller
2015-08-30 22:54                 ` [PATCH net] netlink: rx mmap: fix POLLIN condition Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-31  4:56                   ` David Miller
2015-08-20  7:07           ` [PATCH net] netlink: mmap: fix status setting in skb destructor Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA
2015-08-26  3:22             ` David Miller
2015-08-28  7:37               ` Ken-ichirou MATSUZAWA

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