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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>
Cc: Lenny Szubowicz <lennysz@redhat.com>,
	Karen Noel <knoel@redhat.com>,
	"El-Haj-Mahmoud, Samer" <samer.el-haj-mahmoud@hpe.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>,
	Reza Jelveh <reza.jelveh@tuhh.de>, Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>,
	qemu devel list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	"Gabriel L. Somlo (GMail)" <gsomlo@gmail.com>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>, Peter Batard <pete@akeo.ie>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Mark Doran <mark.doran@intel.com>,
	Cole Robinson <crobinso@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"Ademar de Souza Reis Jr." <areis@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [edk2] EDK II & GPL - Re: OVMF BoF @ KVM Forum 2015
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 13:40:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55F16C1A.80604@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55F155CB.8040800@redhat.com>



On 10.09.15 12:04, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 09/10/15 08:19, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Am 10.09.2015 um 07:32 schrieb Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>:
> 
>>> Laszlo's email raised the GPL question, but I was not sure what the
>>> EDK II community would accept with regards to GPL. Thus ... I asked. I
>>> guess I'm getting a better idea with regards to Apple and HP. :)
>>>
>>> In your opinion, would we be able to discuss patches for a *separate*
>>> repo with GplDriverPkg on edk2-devel?
>>
>> In fact, could we just make the non-free FAT source and GPL FAT
>> source both be git submodules?
> 
> We've discussed submodules in the past (for other purposes). The
> consensus seemed to be that most people dislike them (me included).
> 
> UEFI drivers are supposed to be modular / well separable (for one, they
> can be shipped by third parties in binary-only form; which was a design
> goal of UEFI). And specifically in the FAT driver's case, the source
> doesn't even live inside the main repo at the moment, so turning it into
> a source submodule might not be a step back.
> 
> But... I just don't like it. We should be moving towards a grand unified
> repo, where cross-module changes and dependencies are possible to
> implement with carefully segmented patch sets. The FAT driver's source
> lives outside for non-technical reasons. Rather than codifying that
> situation forever with a git submodule, I'd prefer some solution that
> leaves us with a standalone repo.
> 
> I think I'm fuzzy on the details of the earlier git-submodule
> discussion. In any case here's the link (I hope this is the right one):
> 
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bios.tianocore.devel/15168
> 
>> Then whoever clones the repo can get
>> the license flavor he's least scared about.
> 
> I think for many companies it is important that a developer of theirs
> who is "blissfully ignorant" of licensing questions simply *cannot* make
> a mistake (eg. by copying code from the "wrong" directory, or by using
> the "wrong" submodule). It should be foolproof.
> 
>> Or alternatively instead
>> of pulling in a GPL licensed FAT driver we use a BSD licensed one.
>> I'm sure someone has one of those too ;).
> 
> I'm not sure at all. Do you have a pointer? :)

Well, the BSDs definitely have drivers, but I find the BSD VFS layer
quite confusing to be honest ;).

Then there is http://elm-chan.org/fsw/ff/00index_e.html which from my
gut feeling has a compatible license (read: needs verification).

I'm sure with some extensive search one can find a workable driver. Or
for example Apple could just contribute theirs as BSD licensed.


Alex

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-10 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-10 16:24 [Qemu-devel] OVMF BoF @ KVM Forum 2015 Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09  8:57 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09 16:17   ` EDK II & GPL - Re: [edk2] " Jordan Justen
2015-09-09 16:17   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jordan Justen
2015-09-09 16:27     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09 16:27     ` [Qemu-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09 17:04     ` [Qemu-devel] [edk2] EDK II & GPL - " Andrew Fish
2015-09-09 17:57       ` Jordan Justen
2015-09-09 17:57       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jordan Justen
2015-09-09 19:11         ` El-Haj-Mahmoud, Samer
2015-09-09 19:11         ` [Qemu-devel] " El-Haj-Mahmoud, Samer
2015-09-09 22:24           ` Jordan Justen
2015-09-09 23:05             ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-09 23:11               ` El-Haj-Mahmoud, Samer
2015-09-09 23:11               ` El-Haj-Mahmoud, Samer
2015-09-10  0:41               ` [Qemu-devel] " Jordan Justen
2015-09-10  3:26                 ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-10  3:26                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Fish
2015-09-10  5:32                   ` Jordan Justen
2015-09-10  5:32                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jordan Justen
2015-09-10  6:19                     ` Alexander Graf
2015-09-10  6:19                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2015-09-10  6:43                       ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-10  6:43                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Fish
2015-09-10 10:04                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-10 11:40                         ` Alexander Graf
2015-09-10 11:40                         ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2015-09-10 12:17                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Fish
2015-09-10 13:28                             ` Alexander Graf
2015-09-10 13:28                             ` Alexander Graf
2015-09-10 14:24                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Davis
2015-09-10 15:17                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-11  2:14                                 ` Kevin Davis
2015-09-11  2:40                                   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-11  3:44                                     ` Kevin Davis
2015-09-11  3:44                                     ` Kevin Davis
2015-09-11  4:35                                       ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-11  4:35                                       ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-11  2:40                                   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-11  2:14                                 ` Kevin Davis
2015-09-10 15:17                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-10 14:24                             ` Kevin Davis
2015-09-10 12:17                           ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-10 10:04                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-10  6:57                     ` Sharma Bhupesh
2015-09-10  6:57                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Sharma Bhupesh
2015-09-10  9:08                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-10  9:08                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-10  9:26                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2015-09-10 11:57                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-09-10 11:57                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-09-10  9:26                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-09-10  0:41               ` Jordan Justen
2015-09-09 23:05             ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-09 22:24           ` Jordan Justen
2015-09-09 22:30         ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-09 22:30         ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Fish
2015-09-09 17:04     ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-09 16:34   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-09-09 16:43     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09 16:43     ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09 22:40     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09 22:40     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09 16:34   ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-09  8:57 ` Laszlo Ersek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-09-09 20:09 [Qemu-devel] [edk2] EDK II & GPL - " Paolo Bonzini

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