From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Adam Goryachev Subject: Re: Recommendations for RAID setup needed Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:12:44 +1000 Message-ID: <55F8D01C.5040106@websitemanagers.com.au> References: <55F85E9F.1070100@youngman.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Alex , Wols Lists Cc: Linux RAID List-Id: linux-raid.ids On 16/09/15 04:44, Alex wrote: > Hi, > >>> I have a fedora22 system and would like to build a backup server. I >>> have four 3TB SATA disks and would like to build a RAID5 array. I >>> understand rebuild times can be extensive, possibility creating a >>> scenario where another disk fails during that rebuild time, but I'm >>> not sure I want to lose the extra space with creating a RAID6 array. I >>> believe RAID5 also has faster write speeds? >> What disks are you using? Are they proper raid disks? A 12TB array can >> have a soft read error every complete pass, and still be within the >> disk-manufacturer's specs. If your disks are not raid-compliant, this >> will stop your array from rebuilding, ever! > All four are WD30EFRX-68EUZN0. They're not the cheapest WD disks, but > they're also not the ones with the 5yr warranty. The last array I > built using disks with 5yr warranty exceeded their capacity before the > warranty expired. Umm, 1st google result showed this: http://community.wd.com/t5/Desktop-Mobile-Drives/New-WD30EFRX-Red-Drive-Idle3-Timer-Set-to-8-Seconds-High-LCC-in/td-p/648821/page/5 You might want to verify that setting before using in production, and probably a quick search/read on any other issues. >> (Chances are, your disks are above spec and won't give a problem. Do you >> want to take the risk?) > There's always going to be some kind of risk, but I'm hoping someone > with the technical understanding about disk failure rates can tell me > if it's a prudent decision or not. That depends on your requirements. What are the implications (for you) if all the data is lost because two drives failed close to the same time? Is that resulting cost more or less than getting a fourth drive and using RAID6? >>> Is a 9TB RAID5 partition too risky in terms of rebuild time? >>> >>> What's the preferred filesystem for a backup server these days? Should >>> I use XFS or ext4? >> Throwing something completely different into the mix, how about >> considering btrfs? It's not 100% solid yet, so you need to be careful >> with it, but if you back up with rsync and the "in place" option, it'll >> give you full backups for the cost of incremental. > I'm not sure I'm ready for something so experimental. > > I am in fact using the hard-link function of rsync to perform backups, > though. We have a pretty robust perl script that's evolved over time. > I was also thinking of implementing bacula, but not sure I have the > time to figure it out right now. Take a look at BackupPC (on sourceforge). It is a "perl script" that uses rsync plus hardlinks, but also does a whole lot more. It has worked very well for me for a number of years. Personally, I'm also still waiting for a more "stable" version of btrfs or equivalent which can do block level de-dupe. Regards, Adam -- Adam Goryachev Website Managers www.websitemanagers.com.au