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From: Andrea Scian <rnd4@dave-tech.it>
To: dedekind1@gmail.com, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Brian Norris" <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	"Qi Wang 王起 \"(qiwang)\"" <qiwang@micron.com>,
	"Iwo Mergler" <Iwo.Mergler@netcommwireless.com>,
	"Jeff Lauruhn (jlauruhn)" <jlauruhn@micron.com>
Subject: Re: UBI/UBIFS: dealing with MLC's paired pages
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:38:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55FBDB8F.2040301@dave-tech.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1442562845.19983.43.camel@gmail.com>


Boris, Artem,

thanks to both of you for you detailed description.
I'll follow this development, for sure I'll learn a lot :-)

Kind Regards,

-- 

Andrea SCIAN

DAVE Embedded Systems

Il 18/09/2015 09:54, Artem Bityutskiy ha scritto:
> Hi Andrea,
>
> On Fri, 2015-09-18 at 09:17 +0200, Andrea Scian wrote:
>> I perfectly understand the reason why using nandsim (and powercut
>> simulator in general) but, AFAIK, the powercut problem is hard to
>> "simulate" because the main issue is when the device see a loss of
>> power
>> in the middle of an operation (page write or block erase)
>
> This is right, and no doubts real power cuts testing is the most
> important thing.
>
> However, at the beginning, it is very hard to develop if you do not
> have a quick way to verify your ideas. Simulation is exactly for this -
> to make the first reliable draft. Once that work, you go to the second
> stage - real HW testing.
>
> Real HW testing requires a real power cycle, no guarantees power cut
> happens at the right moment, so you may spend hours emulating just one
> paired-page case. Compare this to just running a script, and it
> emulates you 100 paired-page cases during 10 minutes. And you can
> emulate it easily at the interesting places, not just during the main
> data writes.
>
> So, to recap, I suggest emulation to make the first draft, and then
> start heavy real testing to shape the final solution.
>
> Artem.
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-18  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-17 13:22 UBI/UBIFS: dealing with MLC's paired pages Boris Brezillon
2015-09-17 15:20 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-09-17 15:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-17 16:47     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-18  7:17       ` Andrea Scian
2015-09-18  7:41         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-18  7:54         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-09-18  7:57           ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2015-09-18  9:38           ` Andrea Scian [this message]
2015-09-24  1:57             ` Karl Zhang 张双锣 (karlzhang)
2015-09-24  6:31               ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-24  7:43               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-24  9:44                 ` Stefan Roese
2015-09-29 11:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-29 12:51   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-23  8:14 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-27 20:16   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-28  9:24     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-28 10:44       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-28 11:14         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-28 15:50           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-28 12:24   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30  8:15     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30  8:21       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30  8:50       ` Bean Huo 霍斌斌 (beanhuo)
2015-10-30  9:08       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30  9:45         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30 10:09           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:49             ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-30 12:47               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:43           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:59             ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-30 12:29               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 12:31                 ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2015-10-30 12:30             ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30 12:41               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-28 12:06 ` Artem Bityutskiy
     [not found] <A765B125120D1346A63912DDE6D8B6310BF4CAA8@NTXXIAMBX02.xacn.micron.com>
2015-09-25  7:30 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-25  8:25   ` Bean Huo 霍斌斌 (beanhuo)
2015-09-25  8:35     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-25  8:48     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-25  8:30   ` Karl Zhang 张双锣 (karlzhang)
2015-09-25  8:56     ` Boris Brezillon

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