From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hans Verkuil Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 7/9] [media] v4l2: introduce v4l2_timeval Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:52:28 +0200 Message-ID: <55FBDEDC.8040204@xs4all.nl> References: <1442524780-781677-1-git-send-email-arnd@arndb.de> <8200227.6XAMdOOJfW@wuerfel> <55FBD90C.3020301@xs4all.nl> <9019880.VVdOR6WRt1@wuerfel> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Return-path: In-Reply-To: <9019880.VVdOR6WRt1@wuerfel> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: y2038-bounces@lists.linaro.org Sender: "Y2038" To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org, Mauro Carvalho Chehab , y2038@lists.linaro.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-api@vger.kernel.org T24gMDkvMTgvMTUgMTE6NDMsIEFybmQgQmVyZ21hbm4gd3JvdGU6Cj4gT24gRnJpZGF5IDE4IFNl cHRlbWJlciAyMDE1IDExOjI3OjQwIEhhbnMgVmVya3VpbCB3cm90ZToKPj4gQWgsIE9LLiBHb3Qg aXQuCj4+Cj4+IEkgdGhpbmsgdGhpcyBpcyBkZXBlbmRlbnQgb24gdGhlIHVwY29taW5nIG1lZGlh IHdvcmtzaG9wIG5leHQgbW9udGguIElmIHdlCj4+IGRlY2lkZSB0byByZWRlc2lnbiB2NGwyX2J1 ZmZlciBhbnl3YXksIHRoZW4gd2UgY2FuIGF2b2lkIHRpbWV2YWwgY29tcGxldGVseS4KPj4gQW5k IHRoZSBvbmx5IHBsYWNlIHdoZXJlIHdlIHdvdWxkIG5lZWQgdG8gY29udmVydCBpdCBpbiB0aGUg Y29tcGF0IGNvZGUKPj4gaGlkZGVuIGluIHRoZSB2NGwyIGNvcmUgKGxpa2VseSB2NGwyLWlvY3Rs LmMpLgo+IAo+IEFoLCBJIHRoaW5rIEkgdW5kZXJzdG9vZCB0aGUgaWRlYSBub3csIEkgbWlzc2Vk IHRoYXQgZWFybGllciB3aGVuIHlvdSBtZW50aW9uCj4gdGhlIGlkZWEuCj4gCj4gU28gd2hhdCB5 b3UgYXJlIHNheWluZyBoZXJlIGlzIHRoYXQgeW91IGNvdWxkIGNvbWUgdXAgd2l0aCBhIG5ldyB1 bmFtYmlndW91cwo+ICh1c2luZyBvbmx5IF9fdTMyIGFuZCBfX3U2NCB0eXBlcyBhbmQgbm8gcG9p bnRlcnMpIGZvcm1hdCB0aGF0IGdldHMgZXhwb3NlZAo+IHRvIGEgbmV3IHNldCBvZiBpb2N0bHMs IGFuZCB0aGVuIGNoYW5nZSB0aGUgaGFuZGxpbmcgb2YgdGhlIGV4aXN0aW5nIHRocmVlCj4gZm9y bWF0cyAobmF0aXZlIDY0LWJpdCwgdHJhZGl0aW9uYWwgMzItYml0LCBhbmQgMzItYml0IHdpdGgg NjQtYml0IHRpbWVfdCkKPiBzbyB0aGV5IGdldCBjb252ZXJ0ZWQgaW50byB0aGUgbmV3IGZvcm1h dCBieSB0aGUgY29tbW9uIGlvY3RsIGhhbmRsaW5nIGNvZGU/CgpSaWdodC4gRHJpdmVycyBvbmx5 IHNlZSB0aGUgbmV3IHN0cnVjdCwgYW5kIG9ubHkgdjRsMi1pb2N0bC5jIChhbmQgcG9zc2libGUK djRsMi1jb21wYXQtaW9jdGwzMi5jKSBzZWUgdGhlIG9sZCBvbmVzLgoKQlRXLCBJIHdpbGwgcHJv YmFibHkgcGljayB1cCBwYXRjaGVzIDQgYW5kIDYgZm9yIDQuNC4gVGhhdCBzaG91bGQgaGVscCBh IGJpdC4KClJlZ2FyZHMsCgoJSGFucwoKPj4gSSBhbSBub3QgcmVhbGx5IGtlZW4gb24gaGF2aW5n IHY0bDJfdGltZXZhbCBpbiBhbGwgdGhlc2UgZHJpdmVycy4gSSB3b3VsZAo+PiBoYXZlIHRvIGNo ZWNrIHRoZW0gYW55d2F5IHNpbmNlIEkgc3VzcGVjdCB0aGF0IGluIHNldmVyYWwgZHJpdmVycyB0 aGUgbG9jYWwKPj4gdGltZXZhbCB2YXJpYWJsZSBjYW4gYmUgYXZvaWRlZCBieSByZXdyaXRpbmcg dGhhdCBwYXJ0IG9mIHRoZSBkcml2ZXIuCj4gCj4gSSd2ZSB0cmllZCB0byBkbyB0aGF0IGZvciBh bGwgdGhlIGRyaXZlcnMgd2hlcmUgSSBjb3VsZCBmaW5kIGFuIGVhc3kgc29sdXRpb24KPiBpbiBw YXRjaCA2LzksIGJ1dCBJJ20gc3VyZSB5b3UgY2FuIGRvIGl0IGZvciBhIGNvdXBsZSBtb3JlLgo+ IAo+IFdlIGNvdWxkIGFsc28gZG8gYSBsaWdodHdlaWdodCByZWRlc2lnbiBhbmQgdXNlICd0aW1l c3BlYzY0JyBpbnRlcm5hbGx5Cj4gaW4gYWxsIHRoZSBkcml2ZXJzIGFuZCB0aGVuIGNvbnZlcnQg dGhhdCB0byAndGltZXZhbCcgb3IgdGhlIDY0LWJpdAo+IGZvcm1hdCBvZiB0aGF0IGluIHRoZSBp b2N0bCBoYW5kbGVyLiBUaGlzIGlzIGFsc28gc29tZXRoaW5nIEkgdHJpZWQgYXQKPiBzb21lIHBv aW50IGJ1dCB0aGVuIGZvdW5kIGl0IGEgYml0IG1vcmUgaW50dWl0aXZlIHRvIGxlYXZlIHRoZSBu b3JtYWwgaW9jdGwKPiBwYXRoIGFsb25lIGFuZCBoYXZlIGFuIGV4cGxpY2l0IHR5cGUuCj4gCj4+ IFBlcnNvbmFsbHkgSSBhbSBpbiBmYXZvciBvZiBhIHJlZGVzaWduZWQgdjRsMl9idWZmZXI6IGl0 J3MgYXdrd2FyZCB0byB1c2UKPj4gd2l0aCBtdWx0aXBsYW5hciBmb3JtYXRzLCB0aGVyZSBpcyBj cnVmdCBpbiB0aGVyZSB0aGF0IGNhbiBiZSByZW1vdmVkICh0aW1lY29kZSksCj4+IGFuZCB0aGVy ZSBpcyBsaXR0bGUgc3BhY2UgZm9yIGFkZGl0aW9ucyAoSFctc3BlY2lmaWMgdGltZWNvZGVzLCBt b3JlIGJ1ZmZlcgo+PiBtZXRhIGRhdGEsIGV0YykuCj4+Cj4+IFdlJ2xsIHNlZS4KPiAKPiBPay4K PiAKPiAJQXJuZAo+IApfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fXwpZMjAzOCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKWTIwMzhAbGlzdHMubGluYXJvLm9yZwpodHRwczovL2xp c3RzLmxpbmFyby5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby95MjAzOAo= From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from lb1-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net ([194.109.24.22]:50124 "EHLO lb1-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752160AbbIRJxR (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Sep 2015 05:53:17 -0400 Message-ID: <55FBDEDC.8040204@xs4all.nl> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:52:28 +0200 From: Hans Verkuil MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arnd Bergmann CC: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, y2038@lists.linaro.org, Mauro Carvalho Chehab , linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 7/9] [media] v4l2: introduce v4l2_timeval References: <1442524780-781677-1-git-send-email-arnd@arndb.de> <8200227.6XAMdOOJfW@wuerfel> <55FBD90C.3020301@xs4all.nl> <9019880.VVdOR6WRt1@wuerfel> In-Reply-To: <9019880.VVdOR6WRt1@wuerfel> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-media-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 09/18/15 11:43, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Friday 18 September 2015 11:27:40 Hans Verkuil wrote: >> Ah, OK. Got it. >> >> I think this is dependent on the upcoming media workshop next month. If we >> decide to redesign v4l2_buffer anyway, then we can avoid timeval completely. >> And the only place where we would need to convert it in the compat code >> hidden in the v4l2 core (likely v4l2-ioctl.c). > > Ah, I think I understood the idea now, I missed that earlier when you mention > the idea. > > So what you are saying here is that you could come up with a new unambiguous > (using only __u32 and __u64 types and no pointers) format that gets exposed > to a new set of ioctls, and then change the handling of the existing three > formats (native 64-bit, traditional 32-bit, and 32-bit with 64-bit time_t) > so they get converted into the new format by the common ioctl handling code? Right. Drivers only see the new struct, and only v4l2-ioctl.c (and possible v4l2-compat-ioctl32.c) see the old ones. BTW, I will probably pick up patches 4 and 6 for 4.4. That should help a bit. Regards, Hans >> I am not really keen on having v4l2_timeval in all these drivers. I would >> have to check them anyway since I suspect that in several drivers the local >> timeval variable can be avoided by rewriting that part of the driver. > > I've tried to do that for all the drivers where I could find an easy solution > in patch 6/9, but I'm sure you can do it for a couple more. > > We could also do a lightweight redesign and use 'timespec64' internally > in all the drivers and then convert that to 'timeval' or the 64-bit > format of that in the ioctl handler. This is also something I tried at > some point but then found it a bit more intuitive to leave the normal ioctl > path alone and have an explicit type. > >> Personally I am in favor of a redesigned v4l2_buffer: it's awkward to use >> with multiplanar formats, there is cruft in there that can be removed (timecode), >> and there is little space for additions (HW-specific timecodes, more buffer >> meta data, etc). >> >> We'll see. > > Ok. > > Arnd >