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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Claudio Fontana <claudio.fontana@huawei.com>,
	"Zhang, Yang Z" <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org"
	<opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: virtio-peer shared memory based peer communication device
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 14:15:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55FFF4ED.4000908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55FFE03E.6080106@siemens.com>



On 21/09/2015 12:47, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> > Apart from the windows idea, how does virtio-peer compare to virtio-rpmsg?
> rpmsg is a very specialized thing. It targets single AMP cores, assuming
> that those have full access to the main memory.

Yes, this is why I did say "apart from the windows idea".

> And it is also a
> centralized approach where all message go through the main Linux
> instance. I suspect we could cover that use case as well with generic
> inter-vm shared memory device, but I didn't think about all details yet.

The virtqueue handling seems very similar between the two.  However, the
messages for rpmsg however have a small header (struct rpmsg_hdr in
include/linux/rpmsg.h) and there is a weird feature bit VIRTIO_RPMSG_F_NS.

So I guess virtio-rpmsg and virtio-peer are about as similar as
virtio-serial and virtio-peer.

Paolo

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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Claudio Fontana <claudio.fontana@huawei.com>,
	"Zhang, Yang Z" <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org"
	<opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: virtio-peer shared memory based peer communication device
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 14:15:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55FFF4ED.4000908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55FFE03E.6080106@siemens.com>



On 21/09/2015 12:47, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> > Apart from the windows idea, how does virtio-peer compare to virtio-rpmsg?
> rpmsg is a very specialized thing. It targets single AMP cores, assuming
> that those have full access to the main memory.

Yes, this is why I did say "apart from the windows idea".

> And it is also a
> centralized approach where all message go through the main Linux
> instance. I suspect we could cover that use case as well with generic
> inter-vm shared memory device, but I didn't think about all details yet.

The virtqueue handling seems very similar between the two.  However, the
messages for rpmsg however have a small header (struct rpmsg_hdr in
include/linux/rpmsg.h) and there is a weird feature bit VIRTIO_RPMSG_F_NS.

So I guess virtio-rpmsg and virtio-peer are about as similar as
virtio-serial and virtio-peer.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-21 12:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-31 14:11 [Qemu-devel] rfc: vhost user enhancements for vm2vm communication Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-31 18:35 ` Nakajima, Jun
2015-08-31 18:35   ` [Qemu-devel] " Nakajima, Jun
2015-09-01  3:03   ` Varun Sethi
2015-09-01  3:03   ` Varun Sethi
2015-09-01  8:30     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01  8:30       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01  8:17   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01 22:56     ` Nakajima, Jun
2015-09-01 22:56       ` [Qemu-devel] " Nakajima, Jun
2015-09-01  8:17   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-06 21:42   ` Nakajima, Jun
2015-10-06 21:42   ` [Qemu-devel] " Nakajima, Jun
2015-10-07  5:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-07  5:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01  7:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-09-01  7:35   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2015-09-01  8:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01  8:01   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01  9:11     ` Jan Kiszka
2015-09-01  9:11       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2015-09-01  9:24       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01 14:09         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-09-01 14:09           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2015-09-01 14:34           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01 15:34             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-09-01 15:34               ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2015-09-01 16:02               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01 16:02                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01 16:28                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-09-01 16:28                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2015-09-02  0:01                   ` Nakajima, Jun
2015-09-02  0:01                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Nakajima, Jun
2015-09-02 12:15                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-02 12:15                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-03  4:45                       ` Nakajima, Jun
2015-09-03  8:09                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-03  8:09                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-03  4:45                       ` Nakajima, Jun
2015-09-03  8:08                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-03  8:08                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-03  8:21                     ` Jan Kiszka
2015-09-03  8:21                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2015-09-03  8:37                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-03  8:37                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-03 10:25                         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-09-03 10:25                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2015-09-01 14:34           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01  9:24       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-07 12:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Claudio Fontana
2015-09-09  6:40   ` [Qemu-devel] [opnfv-tech-discuss] " Zhang, Yang Z
2015-09-09  8:39     ` Claudio Fontana
2015-09-18 16:29       ` [Qemu-devel] RFC: virtio-peer shared memory based peer communication device Claudio Fontana
2015-09-18 21:11         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-18 21:11           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-21 10:47           ` Jan Kiszka
2015-09-21 10:47             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2015-09-21 12:15             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-09-21 12:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-21 12:13         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-21 12:32           ` Jan Kiszka
2015-09-21 12:32             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2015-09-24 10:04             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-24 10:04             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-21 12:13         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-18 16:29       ` Claudio Fontana
2015-09-09  8:39     ` [opnfv-tech-discuss] rfc: vhost user enhancements for vm2vm communication Claudio Fontana
2015-09-09  6:40   ` Zhang, Yang Z
2015-09-09  7:06   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-09  7:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-11 15:39     ` Claudio Fontana
2015-09-11 15:39       ` [Qemu-devel] " Claudio Fontana
2015-09-13  9:12       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-13  9:12       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-14  0:43         ` [opnfv-tech-discuss] " Zhang, Yang Z
2015-09-14  0:43           ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhang, Yang Z
2015-09-07 12:38 ` Claudio Fontana
2015-09-14 16:00 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-14 16:00   ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi

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